ISU-152
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Replace dive bombs in both doctrines with incendiary barrage or non-offmap and you got yourself something close to a solution.
Think this is the solution that has the best chance of not screwing other stuff up.
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Don't worry, I'm done with him now and won't keep it offtopic.
And on topic, have you seen last nights HelpingHans game where he used ISUs?
They did wipe some squads, but were destroyed waaaay before they have paid for themselves.
Pumas can simply hunt them down effortlessly and imagine if the map was different and allowed for better flanks then his opponent pulled of.
If you loose 3 pumas in the process you're still on top with resources.
Han's face was priceless the first time Cruzzi rushed him with 5 pumas
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Excuse me,
but did anyone try Luftwaffe Support commander?
Recon plane + nuke bomb
Has anyone noticed that a bomb doesn't even have smoke prior attack???
You will be lucky if you here something like "They are attacking us from the air!!!!"
Instant kill to ISU-152
there is a stuka (siren sound) sound for 5-8 seconds
and no you cant instant kill soviet heavys with a stuka bomb
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I posted a replay of 3 ISUs vs two Elefants. Lost one ISU. So much infantry death now, I really dislike the AI of tanks this patch. The ISU is bad, but actually everything wrecks infantry late...Why bother with a vetting system for infantry now, seriously...
I actually like that tanks are more lethal now, I would just prefer that tigers and is2s and 152s and even T34s didn't wipe squads in 1-2 shots. At the moment they seem just a tad bit too lethal. I think somewhere between this patch and the march 25th update would be my sweet spot for tank lethality v infantry.
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What about Pak 43 spam, especially right behind an IS-2 as a counter
me choosing pak43 seems to be the major downfall of our ladder placement
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A) That is not you
B) That does not say don't talk about the elephant rather "none of this has to do with anyone's player card, how biased one is or isn't, showmatches or how many quote on quote "pro" (celebrity) players agree with you"
If I was talking about the elephant by itself you might have a point, but you can't say talk about the ISU 152 in a vacumn without a point of comparison.
What else should we be comparing it against if not the elephant?
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This would allow arty to try counter it and a range of lets say 75 would make it less of a "leleleleleelelel sniped your tank across the map" unit..
75 is still a very high range, 80 would be fine too..
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adressing entire thread:
none of this has to do with anyone's player card, how biased one is or isn't, showmatches or how many quote on quote "pro" (celebrity) players agree with someone this thread has to do with the ISU 152.
when i brought this up as a general warning to stay on topic apparently people can't do that so im going to have to ban each and every last one of you scum!!!
anyways if another unit/topic comes into the discussion its fine but the main focus of this thread should/will remain the isu152. whether the elephant, p4 or even esselshrek comes into play.
TL;DR comparisons and examples are indeed allowed.
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Which answer would you like?
Realism one:
Brummbar has a really stubby barrel so should not have the same range capability
Balance one:
ISU-152 is a top tier doctrinal call in, Brummbar is a T4 standard unit.
Also the Brummbar is substantially cheaper.
I think both have good AI, he difference is one is firing at 4 man squads and one at 6
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ISU 152 and Brummbar has pretty much the same weapons, but the 2nd can not give the blow that the ISU 152 make, right? Why?!?!?!H%$#@!
Brummbar got 0,5 less AoE then ISU.
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If considerable cheaper unit can do it to larger squads then I'll say: go, go team ISU. One shoot them all
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lol daily basis, alright.
lol, more often than you think.
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6 men from 1 shot? proof dude. I've already seen Tiger oneshotting 3-4 men but entire squads? video!
I have a rep, but hey! Hotfix so it went fuck itself.
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