ISU-152
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30 Apr 2014, 02:13 AM
#301
Posts: 471
Replace dive bombs in both doctrines with incendiary barrage or non-offmap and you got yourself something close to a solution.
30 Apr 2014, 02:14 AM
#302
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Replace dive bombs in both doctrines with incendiary barrage or non-offmap and you got yourself something close to a solution.
Think this is the solution that has the best chance of not screwing other stuff up.
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The German oil scarcity, rare tanks cannot fight the Allied torrent. Kill the house to kill the German oil.
Every time lose may feel bad. Probably not the word lose your subconscious. Maybe I win you Not for the first time Maybe you you should go to recall,
30 Apr 2014, 03:15 AM
#303
Posts: 612
Don't worry, I'm done with him now and won't keep it offtopic.
And on topic, have you seen last nights HelpingHans game where he used ISUs?
They did wipe some squads, but were destroyed waaaay before they have paid for themselves.
Pumas can simply hunt them down effortlessly and imagine if the map was different and allowed for better flanks then his opponent pulled of.
If you loose 3 pumas in the process you're still on top with resources.
Han's face was priceless the first time Cruzzi rushed him with 5 pumas
30 Apr 2014, 03:44 AM
#304
Posts: 1571
I got to admit that it makes me smile when I see the ISU pen the panther's front armor. In the past, all it did was 'poof' most of the time..
30 Apr 2014, 06:28 AM
#305
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Posts: 1108
Excuse me,
but did anyone try Luftwaffe Support commander?
Recon plane + nuke bomb
Has anyone noticed that a bomb doesn't even have smoke prior attack???
You will be lucky if you here something like "They are attacking us from the air!!!!"
Instant kill to ISU-152
there is a stuka (siren sound) sound for 5-8 seconds
and no you cant instant kill soviet heavys with a stuka bomb
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30 Apr 2014, 06:45 AM
#306
5 Posts: 1157 | Subs: 2
I posted a replay of 3 ISUs vs two Elefants. Lost one ISU. So much infantry death now, I really dislike the AI of tanks this patch. The ISU is bad, but actually everything wrecks infantry late...Why bother with a vetting system for infantry now, seriously...
I actually like that tanks are more lethal now, I would just prefer that tigers and is2s and 152s and even T34s didn't wipe squads in 1-2 shots. At the moment they seem just a tad bit too lethal. I think somewhere between this patch and the march 25th update would be my sweet spot for tank lethality v infantry.
30 Apr 2014, 12:28 PM
#307
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Posts: 2181
What about Pak 43 spam, especially right behind an IS-2 as a counter
me choosing pak43 seems to be the major downfall of our ladder placement
30 Apr 2014, 19:17 PM
#308
Posts: 3552 | Subs: 2
A) That is not you
B) That does not say don't talk about the elephant rather "none of this has to do with anyone's player card, how biased one is or isn't, showmatches or how many quote on quote "pro" (celebrity) players agree with you"
If I was talking about the elephant by itself you might have a point, but you can't say talk about the ISU 152 in a vacumn without a point of comparison.
What else should we be comparing it against if not the elephant?
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30 Apr 2014, 19:21 PM
#309
Posts: 2053
Massive accuracy decrease vs small targets. One shotting = fixed with the common overshooting/missing.
30 Apr 2014, 19:44 PM
#310
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Im for a range decrease and a removal of the 2 off maps from the doctrines.
This would allow arty to try counter it and a range of lets say 75 would make it less of a "leleleleleelelel sniped your tank across the map" unit..
75 is still a very high range, 80 would be fine too..
This would allow arty to try counter it and a range of lets say 75 would make it less of a "leleleleleelelel sniped your tank across the map" unit..
75 is still a very high range, 80 would be fine too..
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30 Apr 2014, 20:07 PM
#311
Posts: 3293
adressing entire thread:
none of this has to do with anyone's player card, how biased one is or isn't, showmatches or how many quote on quote "pro" (celebrity) players agree with someone this thread has to do with the ISU 152.
when i brought this up as a general warning to stay on topic apparently people can't do that so im going to have to ban each and every last one of you scum!!!
anyways if another unit/topic comes into the discussion its fine but the main focus of this thread should/will remain the isu152. whether the elephant, p4 or even esselshrek comes into play.
TL;DR comparisons and examples are indeed allowed.
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1 May 2014, 03:36 AM
#312
Posts: 503
Permanently BannedISU 152 and Brummbar has pretty much the same weapons, but the 2nd can not give the blow that the ISU 152 make, right? Why?!?!?!H%$#@!
1 May 2014, 07:15 AM
#313
Posts: 3552 | Subs: 2
Good comparison
Which answer would you like?
Realism one:
Brummbar has a really stubby barrel so should not have the same range capability
Balance one:
ISU-152 is a top tier doctrinal call in, Brummbar is a T4 standard unit.
Also the Brummbar is substantially cheaper.
I think both have good AI, he difference is one is firing at 4 man squads and one at 6
Which answer would you like?
Realism one:
Brummbar has a really stubby barrel so should not have the same range capability
Balance one:
ISU-152 is a top tier doctrinal call in, Brummbar is a T4 standard unit.
Also the Brummbar is substantially cheaper.
I think both have good AI, he difference is one is firing at 4 man squads and one at 6
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1 May 2014, 08:48 AM
#314
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ISU 152 and Brummbar has pretty much the same weapons, but the 2nd can not give the blow that the ISU 152 make, right? Why?!?!?!H%$#@!
Brummbar got 0,5 less AoE then ISU.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
1 May 2014, 10:17 AM
#315
Posts: 1439
Who cares about ISU and Brummbar when Tiger can one shoot 6 men Soviet squads on a daily basis.
If considerable cheaper unit can do it to larger squads then I'll say: go, go team ISU. One shoot them all
If considerable cheaper unit can do it to larger squads then I'll say: go, go team ISU. One shoot them all
1 May 2014, 10:45 AM
#316
Posts: 486
lol daily basis, alright.
No spreading out, no fancy stuff, just smash through. Let's see how those degenerate sophisticates handle a healthy dose of pure unreasoning violence.
1 May 2014, 10:49 AM
#317
Posts: 1439
lol daily basis, alright.
lol, more often than you think.
1 May 2014, 11:36 AM
#318
Posts: 1701
6 men from 1 shot? proof dude. I've already seen Tiger oneshotting 3-4 men but entire squads? video!
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1 May 2014, 11:39 AM
#319
Posts: 1439
It's not that rare. Use the Tiger and you will see it eventually.
1 May 2014, 11:41 AM
#320
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
6 men from 1 shot? proof dude. I've already seen Tiger oneshotting 3-4 men but entire squads? video!
I have a rep, but hey! Hotfix so it went fuck itself.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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