Login

russian armor

Blitz is changing

20 Apr 2014, 11:27 AM
#21
avatar of Cardboard Tank

Posts: 978

- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf

RIP German armor.

Give Panthers 60 range then.
20 Apr 2014, 11:37 AM
#22
avatar of DandyFrontline

Posts: 155

- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf

RIP German armor.

Give Panthers 60 range then.
Soviet armor VS German armor at the moment - Tiger > Is-2, IS-2 40 more fuel cost. Panzer > t3476, Panzer = t3485, Elefant > ISU-152, Isu-152 more fuel cost, Panther > any soviet armor, best tank destroyer in the game and etc. Ofc i take only anti-tank capabilities. + German armor got OP blitz and not so OP but very very good smoke. So, even with buff of is-2 and isu-152 and nerf panther vet2 (panther+vet2+smoke+blitz = best unit ever)German armor still will be really good. + we must remember dat soviets have no any infantry with anti-tank weapons (like shreks, bazzokas)
20 Apr 2014, 11:44 AM
#23
avatar of wehrwolfzug

Posts: 126

Now, now... Don't get too dramatic. You still have tigers, tiger ace, paks, pak 43, elephants shrecks, Faust and airstrikes.

If anything the Germans should be afraid of the Americans. If there is one thing us coh 1 vets know all to well is how relic likes to give op bs to please the biggest player base.....

Trust me the soviets will feel like a walk in the park compared to what you will see happen with the American vs german balance. There will be a boatload of hardcore ost players jumping ship.
20 Apr 2014, 15:14 PM
#24
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf

RIP German armor.

Give Panthers 60 range then.


What did you expected really?
We all know that german armor advantage is soon to be a 'relic' of the past(pun intended).
20 Apr 2014, 15:19 PM
#25
avatar of dasheepeh

Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1

I dont know how to feel about this. Lets just wait for the patch.
20 Apr 2014, 15:23 PM
#26
avatar of JHeartless

Posts: 1637

I am with daheepeh I dont know how I feel about this. Maybe on the Panther but the P4 ehhhh? Guess we will wait and see. But to be fair the Soviets Vet 1 ability sucks ass. Doesnt mean I want to see PIVs getting clowned left right and center.
20 Apr 2014, 15:42 PM
#27
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

yay, no more tigers blitzing thruoght 2x su-85s, 3 zis and a bunch of gaurds killing everything,and blitzing away.
20 Apr 2014, 16:45 PM
#28
avatar of Aerohank

Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1

- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf

RIP German armor.

Give Panthers 60 range then.


Yeah that is how balancing works. When something is OP, you nerf it and then buff it again so nothing really changes. :rolleyes:

20 Apr 2014, 16:52 PM
#29
avatar of pigsoup
Patrion 14

Posts: 4301 | Subs: 2

- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf

RIP German armor.

Give Panthers 60 range then.


yep. relic said they just finalised 14 pages worth of patch notes but there are only gonna be those three changes. get a grip and stop being a drama queen.:*(
20 Apr 2014, 17:10 PM
#30
avatar of Cardboard Tank

Posts: 978



Yeah that is how balancing works. When something is OP, you nerf it and then buff it again so nothing really changes. :rolleyes:

That´s how balancing works. It´s called preventing an over-nerf.

So, Russian tanks get all the advantages? Su-85 having more range than StuG, IS-2 and ISU-152 having about 3x and 6x faster reload times than the real deal and they can keep their broken ability (ram), while German tanks get the downsides (less range, soon less speed and don´t even talk about the Elefant that fires as slow as the ISU-152 and moves at the speed of a snail).

This is silly game design already and now it´s getting worse. Where is the asymmetrical balance of one faction having more expensive and better stuff than the other that worked so well in Coh1? I´m not looking forward to dull engagements where Panthers and Russian tanks park in front of each other praying to the RNG god yet again, because the units are almost mirrored.
20 Apr 2014, 17:15 PM
#31
avatar of DandyFrontline

Posts: 155

That´s how balancing works. It´s called preventing an over-nerf.

So, Russian tanks get all the advantages? Su-85 having more range than StuG, IS-2 and ISU-152 having about 3x and 6x faster reload times than the real deal and they can keep their broken ability (ram), while German tanks get the downsides (less range, soon less speed and don´t even talk about the Elefant that fires as slow as the ISU-152 and moves at the speed of a snail).

This is silly game design already and now it´s getting worse. Where is the asymmetrical balance of one faction having more expensive and better stuff than the other that worked so well in Coh1? I´m not looking forward to dull engagements where Panthers and Russian tanks park in front of each other praying to the RNG god yet again, because the units are almost mirrored.
Lol, dude, russian tanks suck ballz at the moment. German armor is better all the ways. And you still dare to cry? This silly german fanboyz.
20 Apr 2014, 17:16 PM
#32
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

@Cardboard Tank
So you'd rather have IS-2 and ISU real life reloads and guaranteed tank kill on hit?

SU-85 is more expensive and tier higher then StuG. This is like whining that penals are better then conscripts.

This silly design is called balance and it will continue until all armies are equal to themselves in all stages of the game, which means yes, your beloved germany getting nerfs and soviets getting buffs, especially now when ost got all the advantages.

Calm your tits, wait for patch and adapt to changes, its not last patch to be ever released.
If it will be sooo bad for you, then please, jump to the other side of the fence where you will think the grass will be greener and be hit by the brick of hard reality.
20 Apr 2014, 17:26 PM
#33
avatar of morten1

Posts: 368

How to Counter SU-85's? Christ how about building the Infantry Based AT that Germans are luxurious enough to have, or Paks? It's possible that the SU-85, the slow dedicated Tank Destroyer with no turret and or anti infantry, little armour and little health may be decent against Tanks? Panthers and Tigers will still be able to dual with them head on. DEspite Panthers and Tigers not being dedicated AT, having Anti infantry and a turret and faster. With smoke and Blitz.


I think the cry of the OP SU-85 is over, just save up to 250 and get a elefant
20 Apr 2014, 17:51 PM
#34
avatar of dasheepeh

Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2014, 17:16 PMKatitof
@Cardboard Tank
So you'd rather have IS-2 and ISU real life reloads and guaranteed tank kill on hit?

SU-85 is more expensive and tier higher then StuG. This is like whining that penals are better then conscripts.

This silly design is called balance and it will continue until all armies are equal to themselves in all stages of the game, which means yes, your beloved germany getting nerfs and soviets getting buffs, especially now when ost got all the advantages.

Calm your tits, wait for patch and adapt to changes, its not last patch to be ever released.
If it will be sooo bad for you, then please, jump to the other side of the fence where you will think the grass will be greener and be hit by the brick of hard reality.


+987783128931782371238173173821371873781,2
20 Apr 2014, 18:01 PM
#35
avatar of miragefla
Developer Relic Badge

Posts: 1304 | Subs: 13

The nerf to blitz is fine. Now, just fix Target Weakpoint on the Pak so it actually works on moving targets.

And give the StuG its smaller target size back, that's all I want.

20 Apr 2014, 18:34 PM
#36
avatar of braciszek

Posts: 2053

The nerf to blitz is fine. Now, just fix Target Weakpoint on the Pak so it actually works on moving targets.

And give the StuG its smaller target size back, that's all I want.



+1 for rational changes.
20 Apr 2014, 18:53 PM
#37
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779

IS2 was fine as it is now.

Squad wipe like fuck, 2-3 shot a StuG or P4 but counter able by multi panzer . Next patch shocks rifle doc will be more disgusting.

So what they said it will facerape Tiger or 2 P4 that what Ostheer can get at 10 CP. Great, cons spam & shocks spam & IS2 spam all day in next patch, good job. Any reason for Ostheer not picking TA doctrine?
20 Apr 2014, 19:06 PM
#38
avatar of DandyFrontline

Posts: 155

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2014, 18:53 PMPorygon
IS2 was fine as it is now.

Squad wipe like fuck, 2-3 shot a StuG or P4 but counter able by multi panzer . Next patch shocks rifle doc will be more disgusting.

So what they said it will facerape Tiger or 2 P4 that what Ostheer can get at 10 CP. Great, cons spam & shocks spam & IS2 spam all day in next patch, good job. Any reason for Ostheer not picking TA doctrine?
Lol, there is no patchlog and no1 knows how vehicles will be changed but you still crying. And its with current German sided balance?
20 Apr 2014, 19:25 PM
#39
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2014, 18:53 PMPorygon
IS2 was fine as it is now.

Squad wipe like fuck, 2-3 shot a StuG or P4 but counter able by multi panzer . Next patch shocks rifle doc will be more disgusting.

So what they said it will facerape Tiger or 2 P4 that what Ostheer can get at 10 CP. Great, cons spam & shocks spam & IS2 spam all day in next patch, good job. Any reason for Ostheer not picking TA doctrine?


Lmao, the changelog isn't even here yet you baby.
20 Apr 2014, 19:32 PM
#40
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

Apparently for some people "equally strong armor" means "I will never win again".

It only speaks about the current state of the game and how 'good' the complainers are.
1 user is browsing this thread: 1 guest

SHOUT IT OUT!

No ProfanityNumber of ShoutsRefresh Shout Box
Osinyagov: Suddenly, coh2 is slowly dying, but you can play it, playerbase still big enough
Last Wednesday, 17:00 PM
Osinyagov: Wow, i remember you from zansi and vali videos, good old memories
Last Wednesday, 16:58 PM
Beinhard: o7 miss this game and zansi
Last Wednesday, 14:09 PM
Lady Xenarra: @Willy Pete The lack of April Fools this year is odd lol
02 Apr 2025, 01:34 AM
Willy Pete: @Rosbone not dead yet. when that happens the font will switch to Papyrus :*(
02 Apr 2025, 00:16 AM
dasheepeh: it was an honor guys :guyokay:
01 Apr 2025, 20:34 PM
aerafield: yeah I already prepared my "Can't believe there's comic mode for the 10 daily visitors even on this April 1st" :guyokay:
01 Apr 2025, 20:29 PM
Rosbone: @dasheepeh I guess that means this site is officially dead :guyokay:
01 Apr 2025, 20:19 PM
dasheepeh: no comic sans font for april 1st this year?
01 Apr 2025, 19:56 PM
Willy Pete: @Lady Xenarra this you? https://i.imgflip.com/3e4thi.jpg
01 Apr 2025, 02:53 AM
Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
01 Apr 2025, 02:36 AM
Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
25 Mar 2025, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. :snfQuinn:.
24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM

Ladders Top 10

  • #
    Steam Alias
    W
    L
    %
    Streak
Data provided by Relic Relic Entertainment

Replay highlight

VS
  • U.S. Forces flag cblanco ★
  • The British Forces flag 보드카 중대
  • Oberkommando West flag VonManteuffel
  • Ostheer flag Heartless Jäger
uploaded by XXxxHeartlessxxXX

Board Info

496 users are online: 496 guests
1 post in the last 24h
6 posts in the last week
64 posts in the last month
Registered members: 53503
Welcome our newest member, Dambacht
Most online: 2043 users on 29 Oct 2023, 01:04 AM