- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf
RIP German armor.
Give Panthers 60 range then.
Blitz is changing
20 Apr 2014, 11:27 AM
#21
Posts: 978
20 Apr 2014, 11:37 AM
#22
Posts: 155
- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 atSoviet armor VS German armor at the moment - Tiger > Is-2, IS-2 40 more fuel cost. Panzer > t3476, Panzer = t3485, Elefant > ISU-152, Isu-152 more fuel cost, Panther > any soviet armor, best tank destroyer in the game and etc. Ofc i take only anti-tank capabilities. + German armor got OP blitz and not so OP but very very good smoke. So, even with buff of is-2 and isu-152 and nerf panther vet2 (panther+vet2+smoke+blitz = best unit ever)German armor still will be really good. + we must remember dat soviets have no any infantry with anti-tank weapons (like shreks, bazzokas)
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf
RIP German armor.
Give Panthers 60 range then.
20 Apr 2014, 11:44 AM
#23
Posts: 126
Now, now... Don't get too dramatic. You still have tigers, tiger ace, paks, pak 43, elephants shrecks, Faust and airstrikes.
If anything the Germans should be afraid of the Americans. If there is one thing us coh 1 vets know all to well is how relic likes to give op bs to please the biggest player base.....
Trust me the soviets will feel like a walk in the park compared to what you will see happen with the American vs german balance. There will be a boatload of hardcore ost players jumping ship.
If anything the Germans should be afraid of the Americans. If there is one thing us coh 1 vets know all to well is how relic likes to give op bs to please the biggest player base.....
Trust me the soviets will feel like a walk in the park compared to what you will see happen with the American vs german balance. There will be a boatload of hardcore ost players jumping ship.
20 Apr 2014, 15:14 PM
#24
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf
RIP German armor.
Give Panthers 60 range then.
What did you expected really?
We all know that german armor advantage is soon to be a 'relic' of the past(pun intended).
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
20 Apr 2014, 15:19 PM
#25
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
I dont know how to feel about this. Lets just wait for the patch.
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20 Apr 2014, 15:23 PM
#26
Posts: 1637
I am with daheepeh I dont know how I feel about this. Maybe on the Panther but the P4 ehhhh? Guess we will wait and see. But to be fair the Soviets Vet 1 ability sucks ass. Doesnt mean I want to see PIVs getting clowned left right and center.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
20 Apr 2014, 15:42 PM
#27
Posts: 1702
yay, no more tigers blitzing thruoght 2x su-85s, 3 zis and a bunch of gaurds killing everything,and blitzing away.
20 Apr 2014, 16:45 PM
#28
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf
RIP German armor.
Give Panthers 60 range then.
Yeah that is how balancing works. When something is OP, you nerf it and then buff it again so nothing really changes.
20 Apr 2014, 16:52 PM
#29
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- Buffed IS-2 and ISU-152 at
- Probably Panther vet 2 nerf
- Blitz nerf
RIP German armor.
Give Panthers 60 range then.
yep. relic said they just finalised 14 pages worth of patch notes but there are only gonna be those three changes. get a grip and stop being a drama queen.
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20 Apr 2014, 17:10 PM
#30
Posts: 978
That´s how balancing works. It´s called preventing an over-nerf.
Yeah that is how balancing works. When something is OP, you nerf it and then buff it again so nothing really changes.
So, Russian tanks get all the advantages? Su-85 having more range than StuG, IS-2 and ISU-152 having about 3x and 6x faster reload times than the real deal and they can keep their broken ability (ram), while German tanks get the downsides (less range, soon less speed and don´t even talk about the Elefant that fires as slow as the ISU-152 and moves at the speed of a snail).
This is silly game design already and now it´s getting worse. Where is the asymmetrical balance of one faction having more expensive and better stuff than the other that worked so well in Coh1? I´m not looking forward to dull engagements where Panthers and Russian tanks park in front of each other praying to the RNG god yet again, because the units are almost mirrored.
20 Apr 2014, 17:15 PM
#31
Posts: 155
That´s how balancing works. It´s called preventing an over-nerf.Lol, dude, russian tanks suck ballz at the moment. German armor is better all the ways. And you still dare to cry? This silly german fanboyz.
So, Russian tanks get all the advantages? Su-85 having more range than StuG, IS-2 and ISU-152 having about 3x and 6x faster reload times than the real deal and they can keep their broken ability (ram), while German tanks get the downsides (less range, soon less speed and don´t even talk about the Elefant that fires as slow as the ISU-152 and moves at the speed of a snail).
This is silly game design already and now it´s getting worse. Where is the asymmetrical balance of one faction having more expensive and better stuff than the other that worked so well in Coh1? I´m not looking forward to dull engagements where Panthers and Russian tanks park in front of each other praying to the RNG god yet again, because the units are almost mirrored.
20 Apr 2014, 17:16 PM
#32
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
@Cardboard Tank
So you'd rather have IS-2 and ISU real life reloads and guaranteed tank kill on hit?
SU-85 is more expensive and tier higher then StuG. This is like whining that penals are better then conscripts.
This silly design is called balance and it will continue until all armies are equal to themselves in all stages of the game, which means yes, your beloved germany getting nerfs and soviets getting buffs, especially now when ost got all the advantages.
Calm your tits, wait for patch and adapt to changes, its not last patch to be ever released.
If it will be sooo bad for you, then please, jump to the other side of the fence where you will think the grass will be greener and be hit by the brick of hard reality.
So you'd rather have IS-2 and ISU real life reloads and guaranteed tank kill on hit?
SU-85 is more expensive and tier higher then StuG. This is like whining that penals are better then conscripts.
This silly design is called balance and it will continue until all armies are equal to themselves in all stages of the game, which means yes, your beloved germany getting nerfs and soviets getting buffs, especially now when ost got all the advantages.
Calm your tits, wait for patch and adapt to changes, its not last patch to be ever released.
If it will be sooo bad for you, then please, jump to the other side of the fence where you will think the grass will be greener and be hit by the brick of hard reality.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
20 Apr 2014, 17:26 PM
#33
Posts: 368
How to Counter SU-85's? Christ how about building the Infantry Based AT that Germans are luxurious enough to have, or Paks? It's possible that the SU-85, the slow dedicated Tank Destroyer with no turret and or anti infantry, little armour and little health may be decent against Tanks? Panthers and Tigers will still be able to dual with them head on. DEspite Panthers and Tigers not being dedicated AT, having Anti infantry and a turret and faster. With smoke and Blitz.
I think the cry of the OP SU-85 is over, just save up to 250 and get a elefant
20 Apr 2014, 17:51 PM
#34
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
@Cardboard Tank
So you'd rather have IS-2 and ISU real life reloads and guaranteed tank kill on hit?
SU-85 is more expensive and tier higher then StuG. This is like whining that penals are better then conscripts.
This silly design is called balance and it will continue until all armies are equal to themselves in all stages of the game, which means yes, your beloved germany getting nerfs and soviets getting buffs, especially now when ost got all the advantages.
Calm your tits, wait for patch and adapt to changes, its not last patch to be ever released.
If it will be sooo bad for you, then please, jump to the other side of the fence where you will think the grass will be greener and be hit by the brick of hard reality.
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20 Apr 2014, 18:01 PM
#35
Posts: 1304 | Subs: 13
The nerf to blitz is fine. Now, just fix Target Weakpoint on the Pak so it actually works on moving targets.
And give the StuG its smaller target size back, that's all I want.
And give the StuG its smaller target size back, that's all I want.
20 Apr 2014, 18:34 PM
#36
Posts: 2053
The nerf to blitz is fine. Now, just fix Target Weakpoint on the Pak so it actually works on moving targets.
And give the StuG its smaller target size back, that's all I want.
+1 for rational changes.
20 Apr 2014, 18:53 PM
#37
Posts: 2779
IS2 was fine as it is now.
Squad wipe like fuck, 2-3 shot a StuG or P4 but counter able by multi panzer . Next patch shocks rifle doc will be more disgusting.
So what they said it will facerape Tiger or 2 P4 that what Ostheer can get at 10 CP. Great, cons spam & shocks spam & IS2 spam all day in next patch, good job. Any reason for Ostheer not picking TA doctrine?
Squad wipe like fuck, 2-3 shot a StuG or P4 but counter able by multi panzer . Next patch shocks rifle doc will be more disgusting.
So what they said it will facerape Tiger or 2 P4 that what Ostheer can get at 10 CP. Great, cons spam & shocks spam & IS2 spam all day in next patch, good job. Any reason for Ostheer not picking TA doctrine?
20 Apr 2014, 19:06 PM
#38
Posts: 155
IS2 was fine as it is now.Lol, there is no patchlog and no1 knows how vehicles will be changed but you still crying. And its with current German sided balance?
Squad wipe like fuck, 2-3 shot a StuG or P4 but counter able by multi panzer . Next patch shocks rifle doc will be more disgusting.
So what they said it will facerape Tiger or 2 P4 that what Ostheer can get at 10 CP. Great, cons spam & shocks spam & IS2 spam all day in next patch, good job. Any reason for Ostheer not picking TA doctrine?
20 Apr 2014, 19:25 PM
#39
Posts: 618
IS2 was fine as it is now.
Squad wipe like fuck, 2-3 shot a StuG or P4 but counter able by multi panzer . Next patch shocks rifle doc will be more disgusting.
So what they said it will facerape Tiger or 2 P4 that what Ostheer can get at 10 CP. Great, cons spam & shocks spam & IS2 spam all day in next patch, good job. Any reason for Ostheer not picking TA doctrine?
Lmao, the changelog isn't even here yet you baby.
20 Apr 2014, 19:32 PM
#40
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Apparently for some people "equally strong armor" means "I will never win again".
It only speaks about the current state of the game and how 'good' the complainers are.
It only speaks about the current state of the game and how 'good' the complainers are.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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