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Shocktroops could need to buy their SMGs like Rangers, etc. There are lots of ways they could have given Soviets more interesting munitions-based upgrades.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I don't think molotovs are the real problem here. The only somehow bothering thing in my opinion is that a con squad spotted and engaged by an mg42 squad will still be able to throw a molotov in the face during a frontal attack. But I don't see how this can be changed, because buffing mg42 will probably not be a wise option, nor nerfing the molotov.
Someone said that molotov should produce damage in time (maybe after 2 seconds), not from the first second, as penalty for lack of attention and/or bad micro. Maybe this?
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Increase DOT from flames, reduce crit.
Reduce rangecast from abilities while supressed. No more Rnades/Molotovs to MGs while being crawling on the ground.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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This. Everybody that complains about Molos being thrown at an MG seem to conveniently forget that this is true with all nades. Guards will do it, Shocks will do it, Grens will do it, Pgrens will do it.
This isnt just molo unique.
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Man.... Molotov costs 7 amo.... I can find no reason not to throw one everytime my cons will be in range. For a cost of 7 amo you can kill 1 max 2 MG42 member squad and force MG to reposition or retreat (or die in flames). For a 25 amo cost, Rifle grenade doesn't do that to a Maxim for instance. Ok, will kill an average of 2 men (though the damage is very random between nothing and 4 man), but this will not force he maxim to change position and redeploy. I'm not complaining, I said this could be a problem.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Shocktroops could need to buy their SMGs like Rangers, etc. There are lots of ways they could have given Soviets more interesting munitions-based upgrades.
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Yes, it can win you a game, it can loose you a game, but it should never be touched.
Planes in vCoH did the same(gliders are not planes) and everything was fine.
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Man.... Molotov costs 7 amo.... I can find no reason not to throw one everytime my cons will be in range. For a cost of 7 amo you can kill 1 max 2 MG42 member squad and force MG to reposition or retreat (or die in flames). For a 25 amo cost, Rifle grenade doesn't do that to a Maxim for instance. Ok, will kill an average of 2 men (though the damage is very random between nothing and 4 man), but this will not force he maxim to change position and redeploy. I'm not complaining, I said this could be a problem.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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well i guess it's ok then since apparently vcoh did everything right
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Its ok, because it makes sense to die if you got hit to the face with a friggin burning plane.
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Its not really any 'point' though, its just underlining/pointing out the intended design.
Soviets are ability focused faction, germans are upgrade focused faction, molotovs are offensive area denial ability.
Everything works as intended here.
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I dont see wether or not it was intended to be that way or not matters to the argument wether its good gameplay or wether some changes might benefit gameplay. Hopefully all design decisions arent cut in stone just because the game was intended to be played a certain way.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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You aren't playing since release, are you?
Shocks used to have to buy ppsh back when they were 360mp.
Then upgrade was made default and cost raised to 480, then it was lowered, because at 480 no one ever got them.
This. Everybody that complains about Molos being thrown at an MG seem to conveniently forget that this is true with all nades. Guards will do it, Shocks will do it, Grens will do it, Pgrens will do it.
This isnt just molo unique.
all you filthy hotchkiss lovers need to l2p #TeamPanzerIII
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If you have played at least a single game or even went out of your biass bubble you'd knew that you didn't even finished first line and already are full of shit.
It costs 15 muni.
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people who say Molotovs are easy to dodge
ever tried playing the game with queensland adsl internet?
no?
then you don't know shit, sorry but it's true
why should i be limited to playing the german faction because i don't live in a more populated part of the world
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So everyone should suffer because you have shitty internet? Holy shit this is the dumbest argument ever made on these forums.
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Actually the matchmaking servers are placed in the US. Playing from Denmark feels like 100-200ms. So much for fixing command lag...
all you filthy hotchkiss lovers need to l2p #TeamPanzerIII
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They were meant to fix games from coming to a complete halt every 10 seconds, not the delay between orders and reactions.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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