SNF / Halftrack

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2014, 07:23 AMQvazar

In hindsight, this FHT and infantry blob into Tiger strat seems like the perfect opportunity for the SU-76M to prove its worth, followed by a Katyusha and SU-85. Then we might also have seen an AC with 20mm.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2014, 11:21 AMcomputerheat

+1. Didn't Peter say something in one of the games to the effect of "Why doesn't the Soviet player get a Katyusha?" I actually thought Barton was going to get a howitzer, instead of the KV-1, in his Kholodny game as Soviets and use that to start blasting the defensive blob.

Changing the behavior of the FHT seems like something that should be quite low down on the priorities list for balance changes.

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2014, 10:47 AMwongtp

so i get more conscripts to merge with conscripts in order to get more conscripts on the field? then i run that conscripts squad back to base to reinforce and trot back to the front lines to reinforce more conscripts in order to maintain conscripts field presence?

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2014, 17:01 PMvoltardark

Hello;

German FHT = no reinforcements = Great and logical as fuel replace troops.
Soviet M5 Quad = no reinforcements = Great and logical as ammo replace troops.

However, to mitigate this major nerf, i suggest :

A new German HT upgrade :
I would give the un-upgraded German HT the option to be upgraded with medical supplies, so it could heal troops as much as a healing bunker for the same upgrade price. The ability to reinforce would still be there.

A new Soviet M5 upgrade:
I would give the un-upgraded Soviet M5 the option to be upgraded with medical supplies, so it could heal troops as much as the base hospital for the same upgrade price. The ability to reinforce would still be there.

Thank you, and what do you think ?

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2014, 17:08 PMVonIvan

I think if you gave the option to heal troops with each halftrack that would make camping on cutoffs much easier to carry out since your troops are constantly being healed on the front lines, this imo would make things too OP. I would recommend that relic add a new vehicle such as the hospital car to support this, however it would have to be 2 CPs and cost munitions/mp to bring out, as well as have a lock down requirement to be enabled/disabled with armor similiar to that of the opel blitz truck(basically an opel blitz truck transformed into a hospital car is what I'm going for here).

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2014, 17:08 PMVonIvan

I think if you gave the option to heal troops with each halftrack that would make camping on cutoffs much easier to carry out since your troops are constantly being healed on the front lines, this imo would make things too OP. I would recommend that relic add a new vehicle such as the hospital car to support this, however it would have to be 2 CPs and cost munitions/mp to bring out, as well as have a lock down requirement to be enabled/disabled with armor similiar to that of the opel blitz truck(basically an opel blitz truck transformed into a hospital car is what I'm going for here).

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2014, 17:19 PMKatitof

To add to that, it would be absolutely counter intuitive to following things:
-medkits
-forward bases
-forward med bunker
-medical supply drop

Jump back to quoted post31 Jan 2014, 00:37 AMsluzbenik

No med, and you can't make it T3, or it'll be the useless unit it mostly was in COH. Even vs Brits in 1v1 the fuel expenditure to get to T3 and get a flamen was really iffy considering there ought to be a light tank on the field by that time.

I really don't see much of a problem with taking away the Ostheer HT's reinforce ability. The thing is the maps have so few points that having that unit on a cut-off is just a game-ender usually. Blame the Kholodny and Langrskaya map design. Honestly, I'm still not sure they should tweak units because the maps are faulty. I have never seen it be a huge problem on Semois winter or summer for instance.

Taking away reinforce when upgraded would make the game a lot more difficult for Ostheer on Semoisky, where it's used as a rapid response unit and for reinforce on a big map, but not have a huge effect on Kholodny or Langraskaya where it's used more often to maintain a base pin.