Thoughts on M18 Hellcat?
30 Nov 2021, 19:32 PM
#1
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So far, I've been using it and it seems kinda lackluster/ unreliable against P4s. Additionally, supposedly the Tiger really does a number on them. Someone better at the game than me care to enlighten me on how I'm using them wrong or are they actually a bit lacking?
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?..The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and... the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough...We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
30 Nov 2021, 21:52 PM
#2
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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)
They get two-shot by tigers atm
They get two-shot by tigers atm
30 Nov 2021, 23:37 PM
#3
Posts: 63
They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)
They get two-shot by tigers atm
They can be upgraded with 50 cal top gunner, research HVAP in Armor Support Center
1 Dec 2021, 01:15 AM
#4
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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)
They get two-shot by tigers atm
Gib all stats, don't tease like this.
1 Dec 2021, 01:57 AM
#5
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They also lack even enough pen to pen the front of a P4 consistently, and are not really that mobile in comparison to other tanks when not using flanking speed. I would like to see more stats before I can be sure that it needs a buff, but it is sorely lacking as USF's sole lategame AT vehicle. (Especially when you don't even have HVAP rounds unless you choose to go for the mechanized support building.)
1 Dec 2021, 02:02 AM
#6
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Feels like Coh2 M10. You use it to crush infantry with the added bonus of being able to tickle some cats.
2 Dec 2021, 01:57 AM
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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)
They get two-shot by tigers atm
do you know the pen values of hellcat and sherman?
2 Dec 2021, 06:27 AM
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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)
They get two-shot by tigers atm
It's the old Jackson all over again. lol
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2 Dec 2021, 10:49 AM
#9
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They also lack even enough pen to pen the front of a P4 consistently
This, I think, would be forgivable so long as the Hellcat can pen side armor easier. All things considered, front armor is now roughly 25% or less of what you can actually hit on a tank.
Also, is it just me or do rear armor hits seem to do extra damage?
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?..The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and... the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough...We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
2 Dec 2021, 12:25 PM
#10
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do you know the pen values of hellcat and sherman?
Nope I dont.
I expect the Hellcat to have more penetration but still, in my opinion you have way better chances atm if you just spam shermans
2 Dec 2021, 15:11 PM
#11
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I don't know. I mean theoretically it's the perfect counter to a turtling opponent. Cheap AT tank that can be artillery with vet. The big issue is the lower HP and exact same range like was mentioned earlier.
EDIT: Also that "long range ambush" ability extends the range, though I haven't been able to make good use of it because I tend to see P4 spam from my friends I play customs with haha.
EDIT: Also that "long range ambush" ability extends the range, though I haven't been able to make good use of it because I tend to see P4 spam from my friends I play customs with haha.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?..The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and... the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough...We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
11 Sep 2024, 12:33 PM
#12
Posts: 1379
This cat is not from hell. I retract my previous statement.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?..The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and... the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough...We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
16 Sep 2024, 15:10 PM
#13
Posts: 269
it's crap. I just use upgunned shermans. If you're going to get armour, might as well get something with more utility.
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