I don't trust the official balance team.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2021, 22:03 PMProtos Angelus

Just to give you a taste of one of the most prominent members of the balance team: Sander93

Played against him 4 times, won 2 times, lost 2 times. When I won, he insulted, blamed and just straight up trash talked his own random teammates in all chat, and our team on how he would win if he didn't get <insert insults> players.
When he won, he trash talked our random team on how we suck.
Funny thing? Each and every game he went for fussies.
Don't be surprised.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2021, 22:03 PMProtos Angelus

Just to give you a taste of one of the most prominent members of the balance team: Sander93

Played against him 4 times, won 2 times, lost 2 times. When I won, he insulted, blamed and just straight up trash talked his own random teammates in all chat, and our team on how he would win if he didn't get <insert insults> players.
When he won, he trash talked our random team on how we suck.
Funny thing? Each and every game he went for fussies.
Don't be surprised.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 00:44 AMgeneral_gawain

Man I hope that isn't true. Do you have something to back that up or someone else who can affirm your story at least?

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2021, 18:17 PMRosbone

This is a very cool and insightful post! Thank you. Removing some of the mystery between races does a lot to erase the xenophobia (racism) we as humans tend to fall back on (from 100k years of evolution).

A friend of mine used to say how people from different cultures all think differently. Be it from schooling, day to day life, and even your language structure. It all affects your logic.

When we would work with people from other countries and ask important questions they would always say "Yes". No matter what we asked. But maybe Yes meant, I understand your question and not affirmitive the answer is Yes. So we would go in circles for days. Is the building on fire? "Yes".

Add this to not speaking the same language and technical issues like the shift key issue really helps explain all of the weird things you see in random games.

We need more of this. If everyone spoke the same language it would go a long way to world peace as we would have the same basis for logic, etc. And if people explained their gaming cultures maybe we could all stop spamming "NOOB" in games

This is why the most important thing Relic can add to COH3 is more pinging options that help communicate / coordinate things like recon, arty, pushes, etc. because many games can have 4-6 different cultures and languages. With NO WAY to talk to each other.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2021, 21:14 PMShadowLinkX37

This is the problem I have with the balance team right now. They refuse to nerf pfusi's, bunkers, etc because they're not an issue for them. Why? Don't know. Maybe it's because they have godly micro and don't think we're worthy of making changes because we're only top whatever, but not top 3. Maybe it's because they play in AT stacks of the best players and they're not an issue for them because they club everyone else because they can't have equal skill to their AT lineup. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see 90% DPS on the move units is pretty stupid and when they're picked every game maybe there's an issue.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 09:26 AMVipper

This 90% moving DPS is simply myth, a G43 PF unit simply does not have 90% moving DPS.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 09:48 AMGrim

Ok, whatever the true percentage is (perhaps 90 was hyperbole) it is simply too high.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 09:48 AMGrim

PF's overperform in nearly every capacity once they are upgraded. In team games it is VERY common to see a blob of three PF's with G43 roaming about. Especially if there are not enough Soviet players to punish the blob with rocket artillery.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 09:54 AMVipper

A PF squad moving DPS is similar to that of Penal battalion as far as I can remember. As Percentage of the static DPS units with SMG have also very good DPS (possibly even better).

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 09:57 AMGrim

Is this prior to the G43 upgrade?

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 10:03 AMleithianz

PF G43 has 0.8 moving accuracy modifier. Which makes it exceptionally good since weapon with 0.8 moving accuracy tends to deal dmg at close range while G43 can deal decent dmg starting from mid range.

Normal penal svt has 0.5 moving accuracy. So I'm assuming Vipper is trying to bring ppsh to the topic. It also has 0.8 moving accuracy modifier.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 09:26 AMVipper

This 90% moving DPS is simply myth, a G43 PF unit simply does not have 90% moving DPS.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2021, 09:54 AMVipper

A PF squad moving DPS is similar to that of Penal battalion as far as I can remember.

Jump back to quoted post28 Aug 2021, 13:08 PMaerafield

Random 4v4 automatch is a shitfest of monkey apes that cant deal with the tech tree of USF and soviets.

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2021, 01:52 AMApplejack

I haven't checked the stats but I'd wager that there are a larger portion of players playing 4v4s than 1v1s. Granted a portion of those 4v4s might end prematurely due to a leaver but I'd argue that 4v4s is where the majority of the playerbase is and where coh2 is most fun.

I understand the argument that CoH2 should be full around balanced instead of balanced around a subset of elite players solely playing 1v1. I resonate with that because I mainly play team games too but I enjoy the e-sports scene in my spare time. I think an interest compromise can be made. In DoW2 there is a continuation balance mod made available called DoW2elite which balances the game around 1v1s.

Perhaps we can have the same here?

Have the balance team balance around team games (because thats where the majority of players are) then have a mod that is focused solely on 1v1s. Anyone wanting completely fair, 50/50 win rate, skillbased 1v1s can download a mod for that.

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2021, 01:52 AMApplejack

Have the balance team balance around team games (because thats where the majority of players are) then have a mod that is focused solely on 1v1s. Anyone wanting completely fair, 50/50 win rate, skillbased 1v1s can download a mod for that.