CoH2 statistics of top200 ONLY.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 14:08 PMCreativeName

Brits always have been on/off in the tournament scene. I remember smaller tournaments being dominated by british valentines

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 14:08 PMCreativeName

UTT2 last year was dominated by Sov/UKF combo and was almost unstopable (large credit to perimeter overwatch)

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 14:08 PMCreativeName

but its also the most hated faction so many people dont care.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 11:36 AMGachiGasm

While I do appreciation of the work which was put to establish new coh2stats, I wish it was never made, because it always brings this number masturbation ppl will use to backup their statements.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 14:13 PMSander93

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What they, OKW and USF really need are complete overhauls with new units, reworking tech, etc. and most importantly moving all the important tools (flamers, indirect, etc.) to their stock rosters.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 14:13 PMSander93

But that's never going to happen. We have to treat every patch as if it was the last. We don't know if Relic wants to pull the plug next week or keep the support going for another year. So we're mostly just stuck with what we got, we can create some wiggle room here and there, tweak some stats here and there, but that's it.

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Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2021, 06:39 AMKiwiBirb

The thing is, agressive light vehicle play is very dominant in high rank play, and that is not possible with the AEC. and bolster doesnt fully make up for that I guess.

Either buff the bolster power spike (but somehow maintain late game performace) or give AEC some anti infantry buff?

IDK someone who is good at the game should tell me if im being dumb

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 14:19 PMleithianz

And they nurfed IS to the ground by making their dmg to 12. How would OST would feel if they've been told that grens are now dealing 3/4 dmg, because they are dominating 3v3 & 4v4.

I don't have a clear stat to see the actual WR of the UTT2 sadly tho.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 14:19 PMleithianz

This is the actual feeling that I got from this forum. They just hate the faction itself, that they don't care about the balance.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2021, 23:08 PMJilet

The nerf was from 16 damage to 14 damage with accuracy adjustment, so their DPS stayed the same only the snipe part was removed. So your analogy with grens is wrong. And they not only dominated 3v3/4v4 but also was cheesed to spam infantry sections, not buy weapon upgrades and snipe models left and right with a massive blob that was never meant to happen.




Hate for the British faction is well justified tho. It was such an abomination at the release and it took several patches to bring them to their current kind-of underpowered state. There are massive bad things about their design and Relic is simply not allowing the balance team to fix those by making them more similar to other factions.
EDIT : Such as IS not having snares, UC carrier being virtually uncounterable for 1-3 minutes, Vickers killing stuff so fast that it can't do its actual job of suppressing, emplacements still being allowed to brace and be built in the blink of an eye etc.


Even then, the faction is super tedious to play against in any team game even though they are slightly underpowered because the extra player covers the weaknesses of the British roster and you are left to deal with still retarded emplacements.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2021, 06:39 AMKiwiBirb

When I look at UKF their design is super interesting to me, as instead of a generalist light vehicle (like AA HT, 222, Luchs, T70) you get an AT focused vehicle (AEC) plus a fuel cost infantry upgrade (bolster).

UKF's late game unit roster is pretty good.

The thing is, agressive light vehicle play is very dominant in high rank play, and that is not possible with the AEC. and bolster doesnt fully make up for that I guess.

Either buff the bolster power spike (but somehow maintain late game performace) or give AEC some anti infantry buff?

IDK someone who is good at the game should tell me if im being dumb

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2021, 17:57 PMFlyingsmonster

If you play 4v4 allies right now the one thing that is glaringly apparent is how bad UKF players are on average. Of all allied factions I've played with, UKF players are always the worst players on the team, and this is a combination of the faction being very bad in team games right now, combined with low player skill as well. It's not that UKF can't work, a skilled player can do well with them IF they know what they're doing, but most players simply aren't skilled and playing a faction like UKF which is the worst in the game right now makes a bad player even worse.

Every game I play with a more than 1 UKF player tends to go badly, they just suffer so much manpower bleed and I hardly ever see them with a positive k/d. I cringe when I have a team in 4v4 of me (playing soviet or USF) with 3 UKF teammates, it's almost not even worth playing especially since lower ranked players like to spam emplacements that will just get destroyed a few minutes after they're built.