Commander Update Beta 2021 - British Feedback

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:32 AMVipper

Valentine:
Remove shared veterancy since it not available to other Command vehicles

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:44 AMKatitof

Give it permanent aura or powerful AoE buff, because all other command vehicles have it.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:32 AMVipper

Commandos:
Increase deduction radius or change camo the unit very easily navigate late game battlefield cloaked.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:55 AMUnit G17

So do stormtroopers, partisans, vet3 barfinders. Not exclusive to commandos.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:57 AMVipper

I don't think so since units can have different sight radius and different camo types.
Feel free to test provide feedback.

If there are identical they should also be lowered.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 10:01 AMUnit G17

Well, IR pathfinders in particular have lots of sight and can also call in arty. I pointed out vet3, cuz they gain some invisibility duration out of cover at that rank, similar to commando, storm, partisan default camo. And they rank up super quickly.
Camo isn't a problem imo, it's just they are not an everyday sight (huehue) and most people don't know how to counter them.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:54 AMVipper

There is nothing wrong with AOE of Valentine.

Vehicles Auras has very little to do with shared veterancy.

Valentine get Victor arty instead an aura.

In any case if your opinion Valentines need an aura feel free to make your suggestions instead of quoting mine.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:32 AMVipper

Commandos:
Increase deduction radius or change camo the unit very easily navigate late game battlefield cloaked.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 10:20 AMHannibal

Are Commandos different from other elite camo units? I thought they have exactly the same camo as Partisans, JLI an Stormtroopers.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 10:51 AMUnit G17

Ambush camo (only active in cover):
-Pathfinders
-JLI
-JCS
-Ostheer ambush camo upgrade
-Fallschirmjaegers
-AT conscripts
-AT paratroopers

Assault camo (active for a short duration after leaving cover):
-All snipers
-Partisans
-Stormtroopers
-Commandos
-Vet3 pathfinders

The only thing that makes commandos stick out is that they have light gammon bombs (equivalent to bundle nades).
AI partisans have frag grenades. Stormtrooper have flame nades and tactical advance.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 10:51 AMUnit G17

some noice info...

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 11:05 AMHannibal

Ah thanks, I mixed up JLI then.
Not sure if the gammon bomb is enough to warrant changing the camo type, but indeed they allow cheesy team weapon wipes.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 11:08 AMVipper

It not necessary to change the camo type but they should be detected earlier.

Apart from camo type there is value of a radius where the unit is being detected.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 11:01 AMVipper

There are more than 2 camo types in the game I suggest you check the editor because your list might be wrong.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 11:25 AMKatitof

Use 222/251 infantry detection or kubel generally.

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 11:25 AMKatitof

You're constantly claim how overpowered it is on soviets,...

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 11:25 AMKatitof

...
perhaps its high time to start using your own tools instead of asking dad to break the tools of the other guy?

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 11:43 AMUnit G17

Whether there is camo out of cover or not is the most defining factor imo.
With ambush camo (cover only) you can't advance, unless the entire battlefield is covered with a constant, unbroken stream of craters, which may only be a thing towards late game.
With assault camo you can move troops from cover to cover undetected, so you can make flanking manuveours from quite early on.

I know there are differences in what bonuses each unit gets when they fire out of cover. As for detection radius I haven't noticed any difference between infanry units, but I guess it varies on the few vehicles that have camo.