Jäger Armor is still the same BS than before

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 14:45 PMUnit G17

Both true, but right now, when compared to Jaeger, Fortication doctrine doesn't look very attractive and even if one has it they would most likely still stick with Jaeger. I mean of all the Elephants you encounter, how many of those came from Fortification? I'm pretty sure it's less than 1%. Called 'fortification' or not, that doctrine needs an extra something over Jaeger, or Jaeger needs something less.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 16:23 PMZeroZeroNi

The main reason why you see Ele's from Jager is everybody has Jager Armor doctrine and no one is gonna pay or grind for a commander that does virtually the same

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 16:53 PMGachiGasm

Um? So teller mines, spotting scopes and AT strafe are worth skipping in favor of command PIV, tactician and hull down? Really now.

Give a single reason, why you would even think of picking fortified over Jaeger, even if both commanders would have been free, considering you are picking both commanders pretty much to get Elephant.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 15:57 PMSpoof

Isn't the AT strafe the same as the one from CAS? The one that has artillery flares and takes 5 seconds to arrive and is dodged by clicking 10 pixels to the right?

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:27 PMthedarkarmadillo

i believe it is, however its area of effect is rather decent and its damage is fantastic.

i dont really think there ios much issue in the ability though- but the ost "nerf" is more of a commander rabalnce than a nerf when compared to the soviet one as the AT strafe is better in some scenarios than the stuka nuka whereas the soviet one is simply worse in every way to the il-2 bombs

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:50 PMSpoof

I'm fine with the strafe being mediocre, it just surprises me that the strafe actually works sometimes. I've never used it nor seen it being used with success.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 20:50 PMSpoof

I'm fine with the strafe being mediocre, it just surprises me that the strafe actually works sometimes. I've never used it nor seen it being used with success.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2021, 19:03 PMblvckdream

The last changes made Jäger Armour even more popular in team games as the AT-strafe is generally more useful than the Stuka dive bomb. The ability is also bugged and there are usually no sound cues. In combination with Spec Ops flares, it's almost impossible to keep arty pieces alive as you have to constantly have your camera on them to have a chance to dodge the ability.

Every single 3v3 has Jäger Armour in it, the balance patch tried to fix this but totally failed at achieving its goal.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2021, 23:04 PMelchino7

If it wasn't for the commander's name, the AI suppress strafe from CAS would had been the ideal change (since ISU commanders got the AI crappy one as well).

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 07:22 AMSander93

I disagree, because the Elefant is supposed to be weak against AT infantry. An AI strafe would counter those.

The AT strafe isn't that special, I guess it's only useful against rocket arty because of OKW Spec Ops flares that you won't really notice because those barely have any indications of being used. Shouldn't be a problem anymore if they get changed or switched out.

And the Soviet AI strafe will be buffed.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2021, 19:03 PMblvckdream

The last changes made Jäger Armour even more popular in team games as the AT-strafe is generally more useful than the Stuka dive bomb. The ability is also bugged and there are usually no sound cues. In combination with Spec Ops flares, it's almost impossible to keep arty pieces alive as you have to constantly have your camera on them to have a chance to dodge the ability.

Every single 3v3 has Jäger Armour in it, the balance patch tried to fix this but totally failed at achieving its goal.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 19:57 PMGrining Cat

Hey, I am exactly the kind of player who picks Jäger Armour almost in every team game!

Which Ostheer doctrines do you play in 3v3? Or which would you suggest as an good alternative?

I often feel like Jäger Armour the best choice, because other doctrines feel weaker or don´t offer as much.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 20:00 PMblvckdream

Ah Schmusekatze

Jäger Armour is the best choice which is why everyone uses it every game. That's exactly my point. It should be nerfed further so the game isn't as boring. No one wants to play against the same doctrine over and over again.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 20:00 PMblvckdream

Ah Schmusekatze

Jäger Armour is the best choice which is why everyone uses it every game. That's exactly my point. It should be nerfed further so the game isn't as boring. No one wants to play against the same doctrine over and over again.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 20:15 PMStug life

well really for team game u need an elephant/JT so u really have 3 commander total to play , maybe okw can pull of using the elite armor with the jadpanzer with boosted ammo

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 20:15 PMStug life

well really for team game u need an elephant/JT so u really have 3 commander total to play , maybe okw can pull of using the elite armor with the jadpanzer with boosted ammo

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 20:40 PMblvckdream

I rarely see JT in 3v3 and I personally never use it as 2x JP4 are way better. Ostheer is fine without Elefant as well. You can counter TDs with Pak40s and Pgrens with Shrecks. Elefant with spotting scope is just too way easier to use as it remains broken OP.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2021, 20:15 PMStug life

well really for team game u need an elephant/JT so u really have 3 commander total to play