My respond to the accusations

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 21:00 PMaerafield

Help me to understand that: It's normal to you that Relic has a Community Manager working on the game. Coders working on the game that created 64 bit version. Invested thousands of dollars into CoH2 tournaments in the last 2 years.


But them updating the anti cheat system makes 0 sense to you??




We will never know and for a good reason. If we knew details about the system then every future hacker knows what to do in order to not getting caught.

However it's a weird assumption that the CoH2 Game Servers would need to be "patched" in the sense of the players needing to download something(?) for a cheat system getting updated.

And yes it's totally possible that Relic has millions of replays stored somewhere and has a system that is running secret test cases on them.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 20:50 PMVonIvan

Tis a good question. I wonder too what was updated in the anti-cheat department. But if it was a multi-ban wave it must be something decent.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 21:12 PMmasterx.

Yeah it does, i might be wrong, but doesnt the game updates (like new commanders, maps) all comes from community members, and then relic just put into the game? 64-bit isnt live yet right?

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 21:00 PMaerafield

Help me to understand that: It's normal to you that Relic has a Community Manager working on the game. Coders working on the game that created 64 bit version. Invested thousands of dollars into CoH2 tournaments in the last 2 years.


But them updating the anti cheat system makes 0 sense to you??

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2021, 23:29 PMNorthWeapon

There are different skill levels of cheaters, pro cheaters make it very hard to know that they are cheating. Seeking for example never made it obvious that he was cheating. However even he messes up every now and then, as shown by aerafield's sniper video.

Just so this can be productive in banning future cheaters: Seeking never looked deep into fog of war. What he did was move his camera a little bit more to the edge than normal, just a tincy bit. A little weird when you look at it, but anyone including myself can overlook it.

He was very smart about it. Even though he'd see an MG42 through maphacks, he would still send a combat engineer towards it making it look like he's not maphacking.

It's specifically his sniper play that really gave it away: everybody wants to keep their sniper alive and kill the enemy sniper. So I think catch a cheater by his sniper play.

Also I was very convinced by Seeking in his stream that he wasn't cheating, so that totally took me by surprise and good to know for future purposes that a stream to show he doesn't cheat isn't enough.



Rewatch this again. Great techniques to hide cheating, but still some big mistakes.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 21:20 PMaerafield

64bit is live since over 2 months now, and it certainly didnt get created out of thin air or by the community

Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2021, 05:06 AMRosbone

Nor did it get created for all the people begging for it since their game crashed all the time.

It got created because of Microsoft and money. They don't give a rats ass about the community. Their game was a crashing pile of ass for years. Never heard a peep from them.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 13:26 PMLatch

But FOW doesnt hide sound or trees crushing etc, amount of times I have hit a repairing vehicle through FOW because I can hear it is uncountable. I know what you are refering to though, just making it clear so that people that don'nt know about this might see everyone as a cheater for FOW 'snooping'.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 13:26 PMLatch

But FOW doesnt hide sound or trees crushing etc, amount of times I have hit a repairing vehicle through FOW because I can hear it is uncountable. I know what you are refering to though, just making it clear so that people that don'nt know about this might see everyone as a cheater for FOW 'snooping'.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 20:39 PMmasterx.

I will kinda distance from seeking now. And focus more on the anti cheat system.
Does anyone here actually think relic went and update their cheat-system? The most of updates on the game is being made by community anyways, so i highly doubt they went and fix something they couldn't set up at start.
And how do you update the anti-cheat system, without updating the game? Also you are saying that relic had stored all the replays of all the games, and that they put them through new VAC? I am not a smart man, but doesn't anti-cheat work in a way, that you have to actively play to get detected and get banned?

IMO, someone should just map hack, post a video on youtube, and then will see, how good is the new anti-cheat system.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 20:39 PMmasterx.

I will kinda distance from seeking now. And focus more on the anti cheat system.
Does anyone here actually think relic went and update their cheat-system? The most of updates on the game is being made by community anyways, so i highly doubt they went and fix something they couldn't set up at start.
And how do you update the anti-cheat system, without updating the game? Also you are saying that relic had stored all the replays of all the games, and that they put them through new VAC? I am not a smart man, but doesn't anti-cheat work in a way, that you have to actively play to get detected and get banned?

IMO, someone should just map hack, post a video on youtube, and then will see, how good is the new anti-cheat system.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2021, 20:02 PMadamírcz

Are you hopin that he will be seeking forgiveness?

Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2021, 17:09 PMBaba

sry, but i dont think this is a grammatically correct english sentence
atleast i dont get what you mean

Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2021, 19:50 PMadamírcz

Apology accepted, but I think it is

Just google ´seeking forgiveness´

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2021, 16:47 PMempirescurropt

are we geting a total wipe rank !

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2021, 16:34 PMKronosaur0s

All of this because of some luck and coincidences

Poor Seeking man