KV1

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 04:36 AMPorygon

So you need an extra additonal Pak40, some additional screcks, just to counter a single KV1, feels balanced?

Try playing against it with a single Pak, some Grens and a P4 or even 2 P4, a usual unit combination of Ostheer in that timeslot. See how your P4 struggle.
Big cats do not arrived yet.

TBH, that tank can't do shit to big cats.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2021, 23:49 PMMr. Someguy

It's only strength is it's HP though, if you give it 800HP it's at the same durability level as a T-34-85 but without a decent gun.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:07 PMTygrys

I absolutely love these forums. Some random most likely loses a game in his perception thanks to a singular unit, makes a thread about said unit and suddenly everyone remembers that unit is "problematic". What makes it funnier is the game just had a "balance" patch released but nobody remembered to address the supposed issue before the game got patched. Hilarious.
No, the KV-1 is fine. It's on the same level of useful as a Churchill which isn't much. You people should be concerned about actually bad units and abilities instead of this.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:07 PMTygrys

I absolutely love these forums. Some random most likely loses a game in his perception thanks to a singular unit, makes a thread about said unit and suddenly everyone remembers that unit is "problematic". What makes it funnier is the game just had a "balance" patch released but nobody remembered to address the supposed issue before the game got patched. Hilarious.
No, the KV-1 is fine. It's on the same level of useful as a Churchill which isn't much. You people should be concerned about actually bad units and abilities instead of this.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 01:45 AMMr. Someguy

Between something that'll occasionally bounce a Panther, and something that'll usually penetrate a Panther, I think I'd have to go with the penetration.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:27 PMVipper

You should not try to fight the most stock AT vehicle with a cheaper tank to begin with.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:29 PMKatitof

Why are you complaining that allied TDs deal so easily with P4s then all the damn time?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:29 PMKatitof

"Rules for thee but not for me"

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:33 PMVipper

Being hit and penetrate with a probability close to 100% when out-ranged by 20 dose not really qualify as fighting.
It more like target practice.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:37 PMTygrys

Let me guess - Elefant and Jagdtiger outranging and penetrating everything almost all the time and the Panther bouncing most shots, being able to brawl with Allied heavies and being highly mobile is fine though, right?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:39 PMVipper

Pls do not guess and try to respond to what has been posted.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:33 PMVipper

And since your math are bad:
1.000 HP that KV-1 has are more 640 HP that PzIV has.
490/185 fuel is more than 400/145

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 14:24 PMAradan

Your math is bad also.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:07 PMTygrys

suddenly everyone remembers that unit is "problematic". What makes it funnier is the game just had a "balance" patch released but nobody remembered to address the supposed issue before the game got patched. Hilarious.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 14:28 PMVipper

Not really.
Katitof made an analogy of Panther vs KV-1 and PzIV vs an allied TD.

490/185 is the price of the Panther and 400/145 is the price for an M36. You can replace it with that of the SU-85 which is cheaper if you like. But I will edit it for you so that is more clear.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:15 PMKlement Pikhtura

KV-1 is sort of meta, churchill is not (comet is). So they are quite different in this regard. Kv-1 is also quite affordable and comes in a variety of pretty decent doctrines.