KV1
10 Mar 2021, 11:24 AM
#1
Posts: 290
So what was the logic of giving a heavy armor tank that is cheap to build more HP and damage reduction than any other tank in the game? I don't mind the armor or damage reduction or extra hp, but all those combined is too much for 1 tank unit. This really need balancing.
10 Mar 2021, 11:25 AM
#2
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
The intended role of the tank - damage sponge/break through tank with weak ass gun.
It has the same effective health as Panther.
Lower health and damage reduction are there to make repairing it faster.
Its all balanced if you actually understand what stats it has and why they are thee.
It has the same effective health as Panther.
Lower health and damage reduction are there to make repairing it faster.
Its all balanced if you actually understand what stats it has and why they are thee.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Mar 2021, 11:30 AM
#3
Posts: 290
Weak ass gun my ass, it can pene even heavy tanks. I agree you need RNG, but still happens. At the moment it needs to lose extra hp or damage reduction bonus.
10 Mar 2021, 11:38 AM
#4
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Weak ass gun my ass, it can pene even heavy tanks. I agree you need RNG, but still happens. At the moment it needs to lose extra hp or damage reduction bonus.
T-70 can pen King Tiger frontally too, you just need RNG, but still happens.
222 can also pen IS-2, just RNG.
And its not losing either of these things, because it needs them to fulfill its role.
I have already told you, it has 960 effective health, the exact same as panther.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Mar 2021, 11:40 AM
#5
Posts: 2779
Weak ass gun my ass, it can pene even heavy tanks. I agree you need RNG, but still happens. At the moment it needs to lose extra hp or damage reduction bonus.
Indeed it is a weak ass gun, if you taking Jagdtiger Pak43 as reference, or taking Katitoffism logic as reference.
10 Mar 2021, 11:45 AM
#6
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Indeed it is a weak ass gun, if you taking Jagdtiger Pak43 as reference, or taking Katitoffism logic as reference.
Prove me wrong.
Here, have a help:
https://coh2.serealia.ca/#51
Now go away and let adults talk.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Mar 2021, 11:49 AM
#7
Posts: 2779
Prove me wrong.
Here, have a help:
https://coh2.serealia.ca/#51
Now go away and let adults talk.
So T-34/76 is a weak ass gun/tank too, by The Ministry of Katitoffism Truth.
Okie Dokie.
10 Mar 2021, 11:55 AM
#8
Posts: 1003
So T-34/76 is a weak ass gun/tank too, by The Ministry of Katitoffism Truth.
Okie Dokie.
KV-1 have gun from T-34/76.
But nerf it all and give Sovites finally non doc T-34/85.
I want to have the same chance, to win for each side.
10 Mar 2021, 11:55 AM
#9
Posts: 290
T-70 can pen King Tiger frontally too, you just need RNG, but still happens.
222 can also pen IS-2, just RNG.
And its not losing either of these things, because it needs them to fulfill its role.
I have already told you, it has 960 effective health, the exact same as panther.
Your reply still doesn't talk anything about it's little bit too overpowered for it's cost for having great armor, extra hp and damage reduction. It's gun isn't the old patch gun anymore.
10 Mar 2021, 12:02 PM
#10
Posts: 3588 | Subs: 3
Needs to lose either the damage reduction (and get it back as HP) or the cooldown. Possible 10 extra fuel on top.
10 Mar 2021, 12:05 PM
#11
Posts: 1563
The intended role of the tank - damage sponge/break through tank with weak ass gun.
It has the same effective health as Panther.
Lower health and damage reduction are there to make repairing it faster.
Its all balanced if you actually understand what stats it has and why they are thee.
I think by damage reduction he means the vet 1 "hull down" which is really quite bonkers. Tight rope did a test once where the hull down KV1 actually won against a Panther in close/mid range. When I use it i just use it as meat shield for su85's.
10 Mar 2021, 12:32 PM
#12
Posts: 3114 | Subs: 2
The intended role of the tank - damage sponge/break through tank with weak ass gun.
It has the same effective health as Panther.
Lower health and damage reduction are there to make repairing it faster.
Its all balanced if you actually understand what stats it has and why they are thee.
We all know the intended role of the tank.
But just because stats fit the role doesn't automatically mean the unit was balanced
10 Mar 2021, 12:33 PM
#13
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
So T-34/76 is a weak ass gun/tank too, by The Ministry of Katitoffism Truth.
Okie Dokie.
It is.
This is why it is so cheap you know.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Mar 2021, 12:36 PM
#14
Posts: 13496 | Subs: 1
I think by damage reduction he means the vet 1 "hull down" which is really quite bonkers. Tight rope did a test once where the hull down KV1 actually won against a Panther in close/mid range. When I use it i just use it as meat shield for su85's.
Nope the KV-1 has damage reduction by default. It should be removed since CE with minesweepers now have repair bonus and since it is available with conscripts repairs.
Conscripts are quite good at repairs.
10 Mar 2021, 13:10 PM
#15
Posts: 311
Indeed KV1 has a 20% dmg taken reduction by default. Nobody knows why, but it has!!
This should be reverted, considering it also has very high armor, good AI dmg, decent main gun (can easily delete mediums as P4, Ostwind or Stug.)
Or at least limit it numbers at max 1, as every other heavy in the game (except churchills)
This should be reverted, considering it also has very high armor, good AI dmg, decent main gun (can easily delete mediums as P4, Ostwind or Stug.)
Or at least limit it numbers at max 1, as every other heavy in the game (except churchills)
10 Mar 2021, 13:14 PM
#16
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Indeed KV1 has a 20% dmg taken reduction by default. Nobody knows why, but it has!!
Literally every single person ever who has the ability to read and have read patch notes knows why.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Mar 2021, 14:04 PM
#19
Posts: 3166 | Subs: 6
Repairs are less of an issue nowadays, so it can lose the damage reduction for real hitpoints. That should give the Axis a bit more time to breath during down time without compromising the vehicle's key role.
10 Mar 2021, 14:49 PM
#20
Posts: 1563
Repairs are less of an issue nowadays, so it can lose the damage reduction for real hitpoints. That should give the Axis a bit more time to breath during down time without compromising the vehicle's key role.
So that's like what 1000 hp or is it 1200hp.
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