Buff Ost and Sov artillery guns (LefH 105mm and ML-20 152mm)

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 16:45 PMButcher

Since the nerf (a year or so ago) Ostheer LefH and the Russian ML-20 are hardly ever seen.

The times I have used them, I regretted my decision since they don't really perform.

They fire too slowly to have a good effect. Sure you can use them to lock down a corridor but that is hardly worth sacrificing a doctrinal slot that could have been a heavy tank.

Since these guns are in a lot of doctrines I think they need to be viable again.

If they turn out too good in team games they could be limited to one.

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 17:14 PMblvckdream

ML20 is pretty bad.

Lefh is decent because of counter-barrage.

Both are usually a bad investment because of how easily they can be countered.

I'd suggest reducing their pop-cap by 2.

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 17:14 PMblvckdream

ML20 is pretty bad.

Lefh is decent because of counter-barrage.

Both are usually a bad investment because of how easily they can be countered.

I'd suggest reducing their pop-cap by 2.

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 19:16 PMSkysTheLimit

I can see reducing their popcap, but not much more than that. The howies are really useful in team games and ISU/Ele cmdrs losing their bombs was significant to help them out

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 19:20 PMPip

Reducing their pop-cap would make them a LOT more usable in smaller modes... though I think it's worth considering hard-caps on the units in team modes.

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 21:51 PMthedarkarmadillo

what i would like, is a pop reduction but add a muni income reduction (sort of like how pop cap reduces MP income, but with muni)
then you can build as many as your pop cap allows, but good luck mining to defend it, or having a snare ready for a dive.

then its not a hard cap, nor does it cripple your arm composition but it does impact your economy, especially if you build a bunch (like in team games)

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 17:31 PMGeblobt

It got removed from Werfer and i dont see a reason to not remove it from Lefh.

Jump back to quoted post6 Mar 2021, 21:51 PMthedarkarmadillo

what i would like, is a pop reduction but add a muni income reduction (sort of like how pop cap reduces MP income, but with muni)
then you can build as many as your pop cap allows, but good luck mining to defend it, or having a snare ready for a dive.

then its not a hard cap, nor does it cripple your arm composition but it does impact your economy, especially if you build a bunch (like in team games)

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2021, 00:53 AMSpoof

Good idea, but is this possible?

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2021, 08:24 AMStrummingbird

If artillery fired fewer shells in a barrage, but had a proportionally smaller cooldown, they might be more useful in 1v1 and less annoying in larger teamgames.

With a more responsive barrage you could harrass team weapons more often (like a mortar) instead of wasting 1min+ hitting dirt when the enemy packs up after the first shot. It would also differentiate it from the long cooldown / high wipe potential of rocket arty.