Upcoming Comander Update - Wishes

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2021, 22:27 PMcomm_ash

TBH, it was always dumb that the Soviets in game are the only faction without nondoctrinal SMGs. The Red Army was famous for its widespread adoption of automatic weaponry, and they have none on their stock units.

Personally, I feel like Penals or conscripts should have had PPSHs available as an upgrade stock, but since that isn't possible, I think the conscript PPSH package should be changed into a new call-in squad (call them Avtomatchiki), and have them available at 1 CP. They can keep OORAH and molotovs to make them different than shocks, and have the combined arms ability similar to panzergrens. They would not have AT grenades though. Since they would be hard countered by vehicles, they can then be buffed to be better at the AI job (and price increased accordingly).

Not sure if this would count as a "new" unit, since they would just be conscript models with smgs. If done, this would give us another unit to help make Soviet doctrines more unique.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2021, 10:52 AMSmartie

My wish for Wehrmacht Luftwaffe commanders:
Please give one of the commanders a Fallschirmjaeger unit. The Wehrmacht version was never used by Relic but has already it's own unit icon.
Wehrmacht does not need an other ambush unit because of Stormtroopers that's why I would prefer a true Fallschirm elite inf unit like the US Airbornes at 3 CP.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2021, 11:05 AMKatitof

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Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2021, 11:45 AMSmartie

It would be no straight unit swapping, the mod team could design wehr falls completely independently off OKW Falls. No ambush, no FG42.

Jump back to quoted post19 Mar 2021, 17:27 PMProtos Angelus

I'll comment only for USF since it's the faction I best know (aside from OKW but I play OKW only casually without the stress)


Heavy Cavalry:
Pershing armour buff or veterancy rework. The veterancy nade toss is completely useless. Either remove it and return the -50% reload on vet 3 or buff armour and remove nade veterancy.

Combined arms: Buff cost and nerf active buffs
Rangers: Reduce pop to 9

Rifle company:
Bundle flares and sprint and increase CP to 5 or 6. Maybe add mortar halftrack to the company? (or would that be too much?)

Recon company:
Rework grayhound to some sort of light AT vehicle (there was a thread long ago about the Grey and some good ideas were thrown there). Right now, next to airdropped pak howi and paras; pathfinders, there really is no point in going greyhound. It's not 5CP worth of only AI power.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2021, 15:05 PMjagd wölfe

>As a long range unit with recon capabilities, it overlaps heavily with JLI, and in general most of the OKW units except sturms doctrinal options are long range oriented units

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2021, 17:14 PMPip

One thing to mention: Despite the tooltips, Panzerfusiliers are actually not a "long range" squad, they have the same preferred range as upgraded Volksgrenadiers, which is short/short-medium range. The G-43 is such a confusing weapon in this game, and the version that Fusiliers get is fairly shit at long range, and instead acts as you might expect the Sturmgewehr to.

Jump back to quoted post19 Mar 2021, 20:18 PMrumartinez89

How about combining Sprint with thompson upgrade and calling it CQC training. Allows the commander to focus on rifleman and utility. This would be a regular upgrade so that the calvary rifleman stay unique to it's commander.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2021, 12:54 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Where are my coh1 luftwaffe pioneers? Sadge

Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2021, 18:21 PMSander93

Just to push this discussion into the most productive way, here are a few guidelines for suggestions:
- no new units;
- no unit swapping between factions;
- changes should be as minimal as possible;
- new abilities are possible, but nothing crazy (think about mostly copying existing abilities);
- no total reworks of commanders, but multiple ability swaps or replacements per commander are possible if needed.

Broad goals:
- tone down meta commanders;
- increase the amount of viable/competitive commanders by buffing underperforming units/abilities or by replacing units/abilities;
- increase diversity for Ostheer and Soviet commanders in terms of viability and theme because of the relatively high amount of overlap for commanders in those factions.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2021, 06:32 AMKiwiBirb

These are quite contradictory statements, how can commanders be made more diverse if they have to use the same pool of units as before?