Smartie's commander reworks: Soviets

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 08:53 AMMr Carmine

I disagree.
If its a braindead unit you would see it every game, wich doesnt happen. I am not sure on the numbers but its damage is not amazing among mortars, its sounds on impact however, making it seem awsome. If it does one shot at all it massive rng roll. And that for a pop and ecpensive mortar.

There are plenty units abilities that can one shot far more easely then the 120mm can.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 08:55 AMVipper

Check this

https://www.coh2.org/topic/106172/indirect-fire-performance-a-comparison

Hm38 is superior to most weapons of its type.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 09:29 AMMr Carmine

Yes it does, however it doesnt show cost or popcap wich is higher then about half of the units of its type. Also that its the only doctrinal one of its type.

It cant one shot full hp squads as claimed. Dont fix what aint broken.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 09:20 AMOlfin

It is used alot of time and in certain maps more than others, and it depends on your lvl to see it or not see it much offen that doesn't mean it doesn't need a nerf, and its accuracy is actually fine especially with barrage, in addition to that its AOE is pretty big.

u should check Vipper reply if u want real numbers.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 09:46 AMMr Carmine

I did. Its more expensive then half units listed and doctrinal, wich isent mentioned. Has larger scatter but bigger aoe. Rof is also lower then most if not all. I could only find shot fired in relation to remaning hp, not rof that or i glanced over it somehow.

It also shows it cant one shot full hp squads. Again ifvits a braindead unit it would be build nearly every game at all levels of play, wich it isent. The standaard soviet mortar is more cost effevtive.

There are other things that need a look, the 120mm isent one atm.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 08:28 AMOlfin

Its damage is more than amazing actually

it is just a braindead unit that can counter all indirect fire and support weapons so easily

and it can wipe any unit in just a few shots if not one shot only

it is similar to the American howitzer but with a retreat button

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 08:55 AMVipper

Hm38 is superior to most weapons of its type.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 09:34 AMVipper

I am simply pointing that the performance is not bad as you post seemed to indicate.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jan 2021, 16:58 PMEtherealDragon

I feel like the synergy of Mark Target in Tank Hunters would need to be tested. The PTAB Run and AT Grenade assault already do good damage to vehicles and stacking that with Mark Target might be excessive (granted that this would require a lot of munitions float but worth thinking about).

Overall I think you have solid suggestions though!