[Winter Balance Update] OKW Feedback

Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 23:59 PMProtos Angelus

Are we talking about the hetzer? Damage not impressive? That thing goes through infantry like warm knife through butter. It's best used as a flanking weapon. If the AT gun does not get the first shot in, most likely you will be able to burn the whole area. 180 armour + 640 HP ensures that it can survive one snare and target size of 15 (smallest of all tanks I think) can be utilized to great effect. People mostly just charge in head on with it and get wrecked. Right now it probably comes a bit too soon. It's not OP nor anything, just the timing might be a bit wonky. Don't know TBH.

• build require 20 fuel and 120 manpower with the Walking stuka available in the beginning since it is not that usfule until it vet , and it is easily dodged , so it may have more time for vet.
  
  
• Light vehicles upgrade will issue Panzer 2/Puma for 25 fuel and 80 manpower.
  
  
• Repair Pioneers cost stay as it is
  
  
• Now we need to build both Battlegroup and Mechanized, or one of them fully upgraded to be able to build Schwerer Panzer Headquarter similar to the American faction.
  

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 18:12 PMOlfin

Hi every one.

Maybe we should make the Mechanized Headquarters side tech too, similar to the last changes for the Battlegroup headquarters, I think this is even better since we started with Battlegroup , why not making the same thing for mechanized.
My suggestion is like this:

• build require 20 fuel and 120 manpower with the Walking stuka available in the beginning since it is not that usfule until it vet , and it is easily dodged , so it may have more time for vet.
  
  
• Light vehicles upgrade will issue Panzer 2/Puma for 25 fuel and 80 manpower.
  
  
• Repair Pioneers cost stay as it is
  
  
• Now we need to build both Battlegroup and Mechanized, or one of them fully upgraded to be able to build Schwerer Panzer Headquarter similar to the American faction.
  

It maybe be not that good idea, but it could inspire a better version of it.
So what u think ?

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 18:42 PMVipper

Designing the T2 truck to work similar with T1 would be be an improvement.

Stuka not requiring further tech is a big no. The unit should be available later not earlier.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 19:13 PMMr. Someguy

I struggle to see what Mechanized could be broken up into without reshuffling units. The Stuka, Luchs, and Puma are all much too strong to come any earlier than they currently do. Locking all these units behind Tech and having the truck itself just grant you your base unlocks (weapon upgrades, abilities, and MG 34) is a possibility, but not a very fine one imo.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 18:42 PMVipper

Designing the T2 truck to work similar with T1 would be be an improvement.

Stuka not requiring further tech is a big no. The unit should be available later not earlier.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 19:21 PMKatitof

And which mechanized unit would you put there then?
Would it have 3 minute build time to balance how early it would come?
Or 30 more fuel cost, so it doesn't pop in 4th minute?

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 19:13 PMMr. Someguy

I struggle to see what Mechanized could be broken up into without reshuffling units. The Stuka, Luchs, and Puma are all much too strong to come any earlier than they currently do. Locking all these units behind Tech and having the truck itself just grant you your base unlocks (weapon upgrades, abilities, and MG 34) is a possibility, but not a very fine one imo.

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 23:25 PMthedarkarmadillo

I think the volks stuff being behind a truck and the cheaper one being infantry focused makes a good dynamic. You either rush med for heals and upgrades or delay for mech and have a more mechanized focus.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 00:53 AMmongman

would this ever work for OKW, I've had thoughts about this for a while but never bothered suggesting it

PUTTING stuka in t4, moving flak halftrack into t3 mechanized and turning it into a cheaper and more dedicated anti air platform, moving obers into t2 and with the new changes keeping them behind the tech lockout or keeping the mg34 unavailable till t4 and having them as a proto pzgren squad

this way all the 'mech' stays together and obers come a bit earlier for vet and incentivizes more infantry play and a progress through buildings

thoughts?

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 00:53 AMmongman

would this ever work for OKW, I've had thoughts about this for a while but never bothered suggesting it

PUTTING stuka in t4, moving flak halftrack into t3 mechanized and turning it into a cheaper and more dedicated anti air platform, moving obers into t2 and with the new changes keeping them behind the tech lockout or keeping the mg34 unavailable till t4 and having them as a proto pzgren squad

this way all the 'mech' stays together and obers come a bit earlier for vet and incentivizes more infantry play and a progress through buildings

thoughts?