[Winter Balance Update] OST Feedback

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:32 AMmrgame2

you ignore what i brought up

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:35 AMKatitof

Actually, nothing wrong with that in your case.

As pointed out multiple times, you're acting out of feelings and emotions exclusively, disregarding actual state of balance, because you're too salty about well justified, but a very small nerf.

You don't have any argument, you aren't bringing up any actual problems in case of units you accuse of being op, you can't even justify nerfing them with anything else then "because muh brummbur" and that clearly is not a valid argument.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:32 AMmrgame2

i gone through your post history, and you are abit of allies supporter yourself.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:38 AMmrgame2

small but unjustified nerf without compensation. thats my point.

why look at brumbar only when allies units have 'similar' attributes to cause wehrboo the same problem as brumbar?

i like that some of you are finding fault with the messanger than the message itself.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:24 AMmrgame2

im talking about brumbar armor nerf which revert to 100% even after the 60td nerf. again, we need to see what compensation of nerfing brumbar, vsl and ostt, critical units.

lets also not talk about panther, 'dive and high durable and AI'. it is a dead horse, and not many think highly of that outside of 4v4 late games. panther works in 2v2 but not OP or even close.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 09:45 AMKatitof

There is a reason. You're just too stubborn to accept and cope with it.
Here it is:
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Because they don't.
That's the whole point.
Allies have no extremely overbuffed mini-ISU "guaranteed squad wipe in 2 shots at most, every single time" stock unit.


Very ironic to come from someone who just refuses to get the message, because he doesn't like it.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 10:13 AMmrgame2

nothing wrong to disagree with patch notes?
what does massed AT fire means? Doesnt the same mean for Kv tanks? If AT is concern, why the nerfs to ATG?

im ok with ATG nerfs, though it will means Ost gets the shortend because of grens are not as good moving in.

brumbar is helpful to clear late games 7m cons behind sandbags, and vetted rifles and is.

i can have patch notes that say

BD sherman is too durable with its speed and accuracy, to reduce moving accruacy to 0.55 from 0.75 once upgraded.


kv8 flames too potent against weapon teams, range reduce to 20 from 30, same with handheld flame thrower.

kv1 rear armor unnecessary high, reduce from 165 to 125.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 21:04 PMthedarkarmadillo

I seriously can not believe that a 3% increased chance to pen has been dragged on this long... 3%. 3

Jump back to quoted post17 Jan 2021, 21:04 PMthedarkarmadillo

I seriously can not believe that a 3% increased chance to pen has been dragged on this long... 3%. 3

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2021, 02:17 AMmrgame2

it is more 4% than 3% and it also moves performance downwards across the various AT ranges.

Im pointing out all 3 simultaneous nerfs to Ost AI, is too much without compensation. Brum VSL Ostt.

In new MSL games i watched on yt, most games are won by allies. So much of wehrboo 'strong' meta deserving 3 nerfbats all at once.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2021, 02:17 AMmrgame2

it is more 4% than 3% and it also moves performance downwards across the various AT ranges.

Im pointing out all 3 simultaneous nerfs to Ost AI, is too much without compensation. Brum VSL Ostt.

In new MSL games i watched on yt, most games are won by allies. So much of wehrboo 'strong' meta deserving 3 nerfbats all at once.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jan 2021, 19:14 PMelchino7

Reminder it has the "terminator commander" format. People have to gamble on using the strongest strats or saving them up for later and risk getting DQ.

From the games i've seen in yt in AEC/Tightrope channels it's basically a split on who won. There's also the bracket from which you can see the results of all games.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ptwn9N11mZSocSJcL8xTQFrI8knU86DWoOL7OnCXjo/edit#gid=1184725771

OH: 30/65 = 46.15%

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2021, 03:45 AMmrgame2

that is what the faction stats are saying

hopefully we see some AI added back to wehrboo in v6 patch.
hopefully more consideration is given to different game mode and competitive factors.
too much emphasis on wc2020 imo

imo from 2v2 wehrboo, a lot of changes are negative to the faction

just off the head
-loss of early ostt map control
-loss vsl grens cqc head to head blobbing
-weaken brumbar late game durability
-more smoke access
-easier to decrew at
-early ukf engineer to mg/wasp bren to aec
-F1 cromwell
-7 man cons still beating t4 grens in late game

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2021, 03:45 AMmrgame2

vsl grens

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2021, 12:57 PMKahootKing

Ostheer really getting the short end of this patch huh