[Winter Balance Update] OST Feedback

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 02:34 AMgbem

im sorry but the elephant alone is a huge problem already in 4v4 teamgames... JT/ISU/ELE are all huge problems in 4v4s...



and what do you suppose to replace this ability with? you cant nerf a non OP unit without giving it a replacement...



im sorry but the panther is very very powerful as it is 2v2 and below... things are different for 4v4s yes but 4v4 itself needs alot of work...

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 04:26 AMAarotron

I think issue with long range tds in 4v4 comes more of an issue with maps being chokepoint lanes (cough port of hamburg cough) where their one of major flaws of being vulnerable to flank is made useless as enclosed nagure makes it hard to get to it without getting shot and struck to mines all the way. Effectively only way to desl with those scenarios is just mad bombrush if ele is in any way bad location or try to arty it.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 04:07 AMTickTack

I see what you're suggesting: that when the commander revamp comes, they should keep spotting scopes and nerf the rest of the abilities in the commander, creating balance

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 04:07 AMTickTack

I see what you're suggesting: that when the commander revamp comes, they should keep spotting scopes and nerf the rest of the abilities in the commander, creating balance

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 08:26 AMKatitof

Yeah, I agree, you misread him.

He said we should leave SU-85 out of this discussion and focus on ways to nerf spotting scopes, because its ost issue and ost thread.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 02:34 AMKyle

Ah man, when they put a cost of 30 muni for Bunker Buster, I let it slide because they also decrease the reload time from 120s => 90s.

Now they lower the armor too? It's already hard to drive around without vet and most of the time it got penetrate by enemy TD T_T.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 02:40 AMmrgame2

thats what i am saying. the armor nerf made no sense but to pull down Ost to remain weakest faction because it is most used!

also kv1 or kv2 have bulletins that raised its armor by another 7-8% iirc.

lol!

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 02:40 AMmrgame2

thats what i am saying. the armor nerf made no sense but to pull down Ost to remain weakest faction because it is most used!

also kv1 or kv2 have bulletins that raised its armor by another 7-8% iirc.

lol!

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 03:40 AMKyle

Man if this gonna be in the live version I guess I better even be more intese micro this unit...

Shame

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 03:58 AMthedarkarmadillo

Even more intense micro? Does a 3% increased chance to be penned really drastically change your play? Like before if the enemy had a TD shooting at it you with an 85% chance to pen you would take the risk, but if it grew to 88% it would be over, GG, Gotta blast?

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 04:07 AMmrgame2

with how fast TTK coh2 have become, i will take the 85% any day. There is no justification of -10 in any case.

it is taking 1 step forward with reducing OP 60TD vet bonus, but 1 step back by nerfing brumbar armor. If that is the reason.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 04:11 AMvgfgff

once again. they used to 240 and they're fine at 240. then 260 to be a frontline tank.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 04:16 AMmrgame2

nay brumbar was 260 - reduced to 240 - push back to 260. this patch will reduce to 250, added muni cost to bunker buster.

at the 260 period, with ostt and vsl, Ost were doing fine. For a long while before, many consider Ost as worst faction with the Ukf.

evidently this patch is to handicap Ost back to become worst faction. As i suspecting, most played faction, need to be weakest faction. Thats the internal goal.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 04:16 AMmrgame2

evidently this patch is to handicap Ost back to become worst faction.

As i have suspected, most played faction, need to be weakest faction. Thats the internal goal of mod team.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2021, 07:25 AMSander93

The Puma got changed to 5 CP + build time in T2 already. So changing the entire tech structure just for the StuG 3 ausf.E is not worth the hassle.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 04:58 AMZeroZeroNi

Yo, so the VSL changes a straight nerf or change up so they don't 1 volley models. Because the fire power of this upgrade is kinda important, I hope the offensive performance remains the same(similar).

Jump back to quoted post8 Jan 2021, 05:10 AMmrgame2

agree, no reason to lock 5men stg gren as a doctrine ability if they end up performing like volks? lol wut, taking up a bonus space....

may as well make 5 men upgrade a t4 base build unlock...at least they can go against 7 men cons late games..

vsl maybe add another officer to be 6 men, with field officer abilities..