Matchmaking

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 05:53 AMDIRTY_FINISHER

Is somneone going to address how bad matchmaking is now? I've constantly been getting randoms that are well above 500 when the enemy team is ranked top 150 almost everytime. Id rather sit in lobby and wait 20 minutes then lose every game because of this.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 13:29 PMProtos Angelus

It's a pretty much dead game. Most people play vs AI and the ones that do play online are long gone.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 13:34 PMKatitof

No idea which game you're talking about here, but judging by these 2 sentences, it certainly isn't CoH2.
Homeworld DoK or Ancestors Legacy perhaps?

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 13:29 PMProtos Angelus

It's a pretty much dead game.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 13:58 PMProtos Angelus

Experience mostly. Steam reports 8k people usually playing COH2. I'm from Croatia which is southern Europe and it takes me a long time usually to find a match 3v3+ on random teams. I wouldn't be surprised if half of that 8k is Asian market as I see a lot of Russian/Chinese/Korean players in my games (whenever there is a 3+ sec delay on issuing commands, I know that there are Asian players in the game). For Europe, the game is pretty dead from my point of view.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 13:31 PMVipper

Playing vs superior player and watching the replay afterwards can actually improve ones game.
I have player against lvl 19 player and number 1 player and it was a good opportunity to learn something.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 14:22 PMelnur009

thing is, some people are trying to have fun against equally skilled players, not everyone is taking notes and analyzing replays for hours to get better at video games

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 14:33 PMVipper

then one should play with friends?
or one should set a game instead of going in the ladder?
or one should release that losing to superior player is not a bad thing?

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 15:08 PMelnur009

cmon, dont go katitof on me pls
playing a team game without friends doesn't mean one has to enjoy getting rekt against superior players nor it means one wants to analyze replays for hours

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 14:05 PMEuan

Yeah I don't know why people say this. The game is 7 years old and still in the Steam top 100 active players list.

The only RTS games with more players are Age of Empires 2 and Total War: Warhammer 2. For non-steam games, there's probably Starcraft 2 also (seems like 2 is a successful number for RTS).

Amazing achievement, to be honest.

EDIT: Okay, you ninja'd me with the Steam player numbers. My question would remain, how can you call it dead when it's the 3rd most popular RTS on the list? And why treat Asian players differently? There are Americans also, I find it possible to get a game in any mode pretty much 24/7, that's an advantage of an international player base. Go play Steel Division, HoI4 or whatever and you'll see what it's like having to log on at a specific time and still wait for 30 minutes.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 18:42 PMelchino7

IIRC 3v3 is the least popular mode.

Go for 4v4 or 2v2.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 19:00 PMSander93

Unless something changed radically, older stats indicate that all modes are played roughly equally in terms of games played.

I personally find that 3v3 is the best experience in regards to matchmaking. There aren't as many (good) premade teams as in 2v2 that can stomp you, if you get a bad teammate it's usually easier to carry them (compared to 2v2), and generally speaking player behaviour on the higher ranks is better than 4v4 (fewer bugsplats and droppers). There's always going to be rank mismatchs but I also get a lot of well balanced games. And I personally prefer it because generally speaking it has that action packed feeling of teamgames while also leaving more room to play around compared to 4v4 (where maps feel more cramped), which makes it more strategic. And the map pool is way better than 2v2's.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 13:58 PMProtos Angelus

Experience mostly. Steam reports 8k people usually playing COH2. I'm from Croatia which is southern Europe and it takes me a long time usually to find a match 3v3+ on random teams. I wouldn't be surprised if half of that 8k is Asian market as I see a lot of Russian/Chinese/Korean players in my games (whenever there is a 3+ sec delay on issuing commands, I know that there are Asian players in the game). For Europe, the game is pretty dead from my point of view.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 17:37 PMProtos Angelus

Being top RTS game in a time when RTS games are dying is not really an achievement. COH2 is an amazing and (was) popular game. And of course it's aged well.

Jump back to quoted post24 May 2020, 08:28 AMSerrith

Funny thing is that CoH 2 has actually been GROWING in active players, not shrinking. I remember playing when the average online players was in the low 3,000s. The last year and a half has been extremely refreshing.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2020, 17:37 PMProtos Angelus

I'm treating them geographically-differently. I have nothing against Asians. I only have against their location with respect to mine and server's. One US/Asian/Australian/South American/South African will set my latency to at least 3 seconds.

Jump back to quoted post24 May 2020, 08:17 AMTickTack

I 100% agree

not sure why people are trying to counter you, except they must be gaslighting