Why must the mainline USF infantry cost so much?

Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 23:04 PMDoomlord52

Vet 0 and Vet 1 (no defensive bonuses)
Grens: 4x80/0.91 = 351.65 ehp
Rifles: 5x80/0.97 = 412.37 ehp

Rifles have 17.26% more ehp


Rifles Vet 2 (-23% RA): 5x80/(0.97/1.23) = 507.22 ehp
Grens Vet 2: same as vet 1, since there's no defensive bonuses = 351.65 ehp

Rifles have 44.2% more ehp


Rifles Vet 3 (-23% and -15% RA): 5x80/((0.97/1.23)/1.15) = 583.3 ehp
Grens vet 3 (-20% DR): 4x80/0.91x1.2 = 421.98 ehp

Rifles have 38.23% more ehp

Jump back to quoted post20 May 2020, 07:23 AMKatitof

I meant model vs model, not squad vs squad.

Jump back to quoted post20 May 2020, 07:23 AMKatitof

I meant model vs model, not squad vs squad.

Jump back to quoted post20 May 2020, 00:57 AMkitekaze

Strongly disagree with this. Main reason would be volk is cheap to reinforce, and bigger squad size help them to stay alive.

In a match, you don't need an elite damage dealer, you need good number of affordable and reliable infantry to stay presence at everywhere in the battlefield. The rest is placing them at tactical position to give advantage against enemy.

Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 23:04 PMDoomlord52

Vet 0 and Vet 1 (no defensive bonuses)
Grens: 4x80/0.91 = 351.65 ehp
Rifles: 5x80/0.97 = 412.37 ehp

Rifles have 17.26% more ehp


Rifles Vet 2 (-23% RA): 5x80/(0.97/1.23) = 507.22 ehp
Grens Vet 2: same as vet 1, since there's no defensive bonuses = 351.65 ehp

Rifles have 44.2% more ehp


Rifles Vet 3 (-23% and -15% RA): 5x80/((0.97/1.23)/1.15) = 583.3 ehp
Grens vet 3 (-20% DR): 4x80/0.91x1.2 = 421.98 ehp

Rifles have 38.23% more ehp

Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 04:09 AMMittens

The USF in my opinion... Bleed manpower like crazy, sure it's infantry is good close range but does it rly deserve the high cost that it currently has for its mainline infantry

I can't be the be the only one questioning this, why is it seriously so expensive
280mp for a rifle with 28mp reinforce
200mp for a RE with a 25 reinforce.

I propose a discussion, should USF maineline be cheaper, should it's performance go down to compensate or should we keep the same price yet increase some vet...I'd like some thoughts.


TLDR: USF bleeds more than it should for cost of its mainline, should it be reduced or should performance be increased.

Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 04:09 AMMittens

The USF in my opinion... Bleed manpower like crazy, sure it's infantry is good close range but does it rly deserve the high cost that it currently has for its mainline infantry

I can't be the be the only one questioning this, why is it seriously so expensive
280mp for a rifle with 28mp reinforce
200mp for a RE with a 25 reinforce.

I propose a discussion, should USF maineline be cheaper, should it's performance go down to compensate or should we keep the same price yet increase some vet...I'd like some thoughts.


TLDR: USF bleeds more than it should for cost of its mainline, should it be reduced or should performance be increased.

Jump back to quoted post25 May 2020, 15:09 PMKONIUX27

Rifles are strongest mainline in game lol.... maybe after tommies

Jump back to quoted post25 May 2020, 15:09 PMKONIUX27

Rifles are strongest mainline in game lol.... maybe after tommies

Jump back to quoted post26 May 2020, 07:40 AMC3 TOOTH

Do you want me to tell something stupid?

100 popcap, you able to get 14 RM squad, or Gren squad
- For RM, you have 70 models holding 28 Bars, or even 14 Bars and 14 M1919.
- For Gren, you have 56 models holding 14 LMG.

Dont just focus on price, pop cap also matter.

Jump back to quoted post26 May 2020, 04:27 AMApplejack

Rifles feel like they are in a very good position right now. They are basically near-elite infantry available at the start of the game. Cost adjusted to the value that they bring.

MP bleed only exists if you spam Riflemen and fight without cover.

I still think if anything needs adjusted is doctrinal armour for USF. That and a 'nerfed' Pershing should be made available to all USF players similar to King Tiger.