Call in Meta

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 17:48 PMthedarkarmadillo

it doesnt matter if its a call in or a built unit, anything from a 222 up pretty well will punish you for crewing a weapon with zero nearby support. thats the role of these units. if you have AT and a snare (that one is most important) the unit will be drastically less effective and exploiting you.
without a replay i cant give more direct advice but if you have nothing to stop a LV from cruising up to your team weapons and plinking away at them they will cruise up to your team weapons and plink away at them. its not a design issue, its not a balance issue, its called how the game works.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 18:07 PMKieselberg

That is not the point. I am well aware, that i need snare atgs or units of some sort to cover up my retreat.

The point in these games were, that the greyhound was called in the moment i got the atg, solely with the purpose of denying that.


Can we agree, that a situation explained above, is not a desireable game design?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 18:07 PMKieselberg

That is not the point. I am well aware, that i need snare atgs or units of some sort to cover up my retreat.

The point in these games were, that the greyhound was called in the moment i got the atg, solely with the purpose of denying that.


Can we agree, that a situation explained above, is not a desireable game design?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 16:10 PMKieselberg

My complain is not about the powerlevel of the greyhound - the unit itself is balanced - but the fact, that after a close engagement, where i could have stolen 2 team weapons (which is hard enough with only 4 model-inf as OST), i get punished by a Panic-button-call in, which kills everything.

One could say, it was a misplay and i was too greedy. But it is just unrewarding. Imo, this kind of habit led to the cancer, that mobile defence was.

What?! i get chased by a t70? Better call in a Puma to ruin this tanks day.

I see many simmilarities here, even though a puma is more viable through the game. Nonetheless Panic button abilitys shouldnt have a place in this game

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 18:10 PMKatitof

Boy, wait until you find out about infiltration troops.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 18:07 PMKieselberg

That is not the point. I am well aware, that i need snare atgs or units of some sort to cover up my retreat.

The point in these games were, that the greyhound was called in the moment i got the atg, solely with the purpose of denying that.


Can we agree, that a situation explained above, is not a desireable game design?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 20:17 PMDAZ187

well you should have seen greyhounds canister shot on release

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 18:35 PMLoopDloop

How is this similar to the greyhound? The only vehicle it counters is an un-upgraded halftrack and it's not like infantry spend a lot of time basediving.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 22:16 PMdistrofio

OP said countless times that the point is not greyhound, but its call-in unlogic mechanic.
No one answered him about that.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 16:51 PMVipper

There is little reason for call-in vehicles with instant production to exist in the first place they could become build able form HQ.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 17:48 PMthedarkarmadillo

it doesnt matter if its a call in or a built unit, anything from a 222 up pretty well will punish you for crewing a weapon with zero nearby support. thats the role of these units. if you have AT and a snare (that one is most important) the unit will be drastically less effective and exploiting you.
without a replay i cant give more direct advice but if you have nothing to stop a LV from cruising up to your team weapons and plinking away at them they will cruise up to your team weapons and plink away at them. its not a design issue, its not a balance issue, its called how the game works.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2020, 00:57 AMCyanara

Prior to this patch, unequivocally.

However, I do find it interesting that it has allowed the 3 minute cooldown on death for heavy tanks. Could that be replicated with a 3 minute build time? People would probably riot since that's 3 minutes of not being able to build anything else from that structure.

I'm not a modder though, so I have no idea what alternative trickery might be possible.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2020, 00:57 AMCyanara

However, I do find it interesting that it has allowed the 3 minute cooldown on death for heavy tanks. Could that be replicated with a 3 minute build time? People would probably riot since that's 3 minutes of not being able to build anything else from that structure.

I'm not a modder though, so I have no idea what alternative trickery might be possible.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2020, 16:51 PMelchino7

It's weird to call it meta when it's not meta

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2020, 17:35 PMKieselberg

It is catchy though.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2020, 17:51 PMKatitof

Its so 2017, mr Internet Explorer.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2020, 12:11 PMKatitof

A 222 can deal with it.