60 range TD

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 19:03 PMGGnore

Nothing is ever op, its just you is the prevailing attitude lately.

Seriously though it affects ostheer the worst since they cant return fire with 50 range tanks and in team games it degenerates into a wall of allied td's obliterating stugs and panthers before they can get into range or fire 1 shot and die reversing unless you pick the elefant doctrine which is boring game after gamw.

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 19:13 PMLoopDloop

There's this really cool thing called a pak.

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 19:30 PMGGnore

C'mon man you know team weapons are pretty much redundant in anything larger than a 2v2 past the 20 min mark once indirect fire spam starts, even then using a 60 range crew weapon that can be de-manned and turned against you to deal with 60 range tds that can fire on the move is not going to work unless there's a significant skill gap between you and your opponent.

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 19:03 PMGGnore

Nothing is ever op, its just you is the prevailing attitude lately.

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 22:26 PMDomine

Aha, interesting. You see, back a while when scavenge doctrine got introduced, OKW could save up 700 munitions and instantly nuke an opponents base, therefore immediately winning the game. Do you think this was fair and balanced and not op, it was just ppls attitude?

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 23:28 PMStug life

The problem is only 1 60 TD that has all the good stuff of the firefly and su 85 but non of the drawbacks

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2020, 02:48 AMthedarkarmadillo

But it's the only AT they have*



* if you exclude the higher than average pen on the Sherman... Or the fact that every single infantry they field can carry a bazooka... Or the elite version on the elite infantry thats nearly as good as a shrek but much faster firing.... Or the various doctrinal AT vehicles... Or the fastest firing AT gun in the game that can also have the highest pen and the longest range.


Anways that's why the Jackson has to be the most mobile, incredibly accurate on the move, fast ass turret, long vision, full health but also self healing. Oh and the ability to increase pen as well as damage. Because there are no other options (that I want to use)

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 19:30 PMGGnore

C'mon man you know team weapons are pretty much redundant in anything larger than a 2v2 past the 20 min mark once indirect fire spam starts, even then using a 60 range crew weapon that can be de-manned and turned against you to deal with 60 range tds that can fire on the move is not going to work unless there's a significant skill gap between you and your opponent.

Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2020, 18:21 PMLeo251

There will be any kind of nerfs in the 60 range TD? they are out of control.

What if they can just get a HP nerf, just to make them more rewarding if tanks decide to chase them? 3 hits, like the old Jackson.
Or reduce the PEN at max range.

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2020, 03:14 AMGGnore

I see, so your saying the jackson needs a HE round toggle ?

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2020, 05:59 AMAerohank

Do you remember USF in teamgames in the 480hp Jackson era? They were horrible. Died instantly to schreck teams and Jagdpanzers / Blitzing Panthers ate them up for breakfast. Max range PEN reduction would be a better idea.

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2020, 05:59 AMAerohank

Do you remember USF in teamgames in the 480hp Jackson era? They were horrible. Died instantly to schreck teams and Jagdpanzers / Blitzing Panthers ate them up for breakfast. Max range PEN reduction would be a better idea.

Jump back to quoted post5 Apr 2020, 10:26 AMthedarkarmadillo

The issue is that when they were 480hp they were given many tools to survive like that, then they cranked up the health, increased the price and called it a day leaving a unit with average durability but vastly above average mobility making it extremely durable. It would be like taking grens, slapping 2 extra models on them, adding 20mp and calling it a day while leaving their lmg, med kits, damage reduction ect. Except they also have an ability that gives them bonus DPS and for some reason the lmg can fire on the move.