Winter balance mod 2020 V1.3

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 06:50 AMmrgame2

Well said brother.
There was too much ost whiners and they got a win with needless brumbar buff

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 09:19 AMAerohank

I kind of agree with this. The British Mortar pit was nerfed to require user imput for precisely the same reason, yet in team games you can set your howitzer to auto fire and it will take out katies randomly with no effort required.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:17 AMJulianSnow

Never play Wehrmacht do you. Armor buff wasn't necessary, but it should've gotten its range back to 50.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:19 AMKatitof

Back to 50?
It never had 50 range.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:17 AMJulianSnow

Never play Wehrmacht do you. Armor buff wasn't necessary, but it should've gotten its range back to 50.



Katy is to fast to hit and the howitser is really inaccurate, if your katy got hit by a howitser on 'counter-barrage' you didn't give your katy a shift-order to move after your barrage.

Inreturn Allies have Priest or Sexton in team games which are far more anoying to Axis players.

Which can also fire from their base, and the howitsers can't be build there.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 10:56 AMSupport Sapper

still, it require no input rather than get to vet1. take a loock at cancer regiment's base howi counter battery, it have limited range, sometime dont work and lockout production, yet still being a timer and cost muni to use. It used to be togger but was change for good reasons, it is time for axis counter batt to change, too.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:35 AMJulianSnow

Thought it was nerfed 50 -> 35? Not that keen on previous patches... Only experienced that the brumbar has to get real close before it can shoot.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:41 AMthedarkarmadillo

It requires an expensive unit to sit idle and wait for an enemy to trigger the ability. Huuuuge difference. A unit sitting there... Taking up pop cap and COULD be barrageing but is instead waiting.... It's like an AT gun sitting in Camo. Ain't gunna do fuck all of you don't trigger it.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:52 AMTheMux2

in any gamemode beside 1v1 the ablitiy is broken

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:44 AMKatitof

It had standard 40 range.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:58 AMJulianSnow

Because you can't beat it? Really feels like a 'learn2play' situation.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:58 AMJulianSnow

Still, whats your suggestion to compensate the loss on the units you're removing it from? Mortar/Pwerfer/Howitser.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:58 AMJulianSnow

Hmm, felt like a bigger difference. Still I think that would've been better than the armor buff.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 12:00 PMTheMux2

Hahaha good joke. its not that i cant beat it.

it costs no muni and does too much without any micro. its an outdated ability




Why would the howi need a new ability? the sov one didnt get a new one either?

for mortars? mmm maybe something with a rapid fire ability for muni?

and we can give the pwerfer creeping barrage

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 12:10 PMPrinceps

yeah lets cut core features from factions... (6Man weapon crews gone, crew repair pop out gone, brace gone... sounds good to mee)

nearly every playable SU commander has one Point click and remove option...

As US just go for Priest or calliope

as brits just go for Saxon.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 12:11 PMTheMux2

Do i need to remind you that the core of USF/okw was reworked? cutting core features isnt anything new here.

It should atleast cost muni and not be a toggle.

your argument is an incredible strawman.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 09:52 AMthedarkarmadillo

There's a huge difference from a 400mp unit coming out at 5min having no micro and a 400mp and 50fuel one once at vet 1being able to shoot at units that barrage if it's not already on cool down.

Wanna know how to make CB useless? Get a mortar and fire it before you fire your Katy. It'll draw the fire and you can just move it.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:17 AMJulianSnow

Katy is to fast to hit and the howitser is really inaccurate, if your katy got hit by a howitser on 'counter-barrage' you didn't give your katy a shift-order to move after your barrage.

Inreturn Allies have Priest or Sexton in team games which are far more anoying to Axis players.

Which can also fire from their base, and the howitsers can't be build there.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 12:25 PMAerohank

400mp vs 400mp/50fuel is not a huge difference.

Large team games

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 12:20 PMPrinceps

And ? its a good abilty with drawbacks not even as good as crew repairs or 6Man untis

Than lets make crew pop out cost muni... maybe 20 ?

this ist just a L2P problem... from someone who got beaten by this.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 12:25 PMAerohank

400mp vs 400mp/50fuel is not a huge difference.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:58 AMJulianSnow

Did use this in 4vs4 against some USF player, he had 1 Priest and killed 3 of my howitsers on counter barrage mode.

Jump back to quoted post20 Mar 2020, 11:52 AMTheMux2

in any gamemode beside 1v1 the ablitiy is broken