USF Commander Reshuffle

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 09:50 AMVipper

That is an opinion not a fact and not matter how many times it is repeated it will not become a fact.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 09:54 AMKatitof

Bazookas are not bad, but they aren't going to take down any high armor target, that's a fact.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 09:54 AMKatitof

USF ATG is inadequate and muni ability can be dodged, just move back for 20 seconds when you see it used, that's a fact.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 09:54 AMKatitof

Faction has only a single unit capable of reliable 200+ pen that isn't limited to 1, that's a fact.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 09:54 AMKatitof

Your opinion about facts not being facts is just an opinion and not matter how many times it is repeated it will not become a fact.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 10:24 AMJohnSmith

Meanwhile, there are still no long and high ranked USF games out there that are won without Jacksons, and people still argue that USF are OK without Jackson (if they do, they heavily rely on doctorinal solutions and stop gaps)

Clearly wheraboos who never played USF

USF would totally collapse without Jackson. It'd be back to WFA release when there was an invisible timer slowly ticking down in the background and USF would just auto-lose their match when it reaches zero (too many heavy tanks, and no counter).

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 12:22 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Nobody said remove the Jackson entirely. Nerfing a unit doesn’t delete or make it unusable.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 12:33 PMKatitof

Hi there, let me introduce you to Maxim HMG.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 12:36 PMT.R. Stormjäger

That was an overnerf.

JLI were nerfed, but they’re balanced. Falls were nerfed, but they’re still overperforming.

Point is, Jackson needs to be toned down, not deleted. Crying that usf can’t win without the jackson isn’t an argument since nobody is gonna delete it anyway.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 13:07 PMJohnSmith

A lot of people are for the idea to nerf the unit so badly, that it will land on the pile of "units-that-were-once-good-then-nerfed-to-death". Some people even defend the idea that USF will still work even if Jackson is nerfed to uselessness.

There is no USF without a good Jackson. Allies are currently just a repository of a handful of crutch units.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 16:55 PMWingZero

I agree with this 100%. Jackson is the lifeline of AT for USF late game and I remember how terrible it was to play Allies with WFA came out.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 09:54 AMKatitof

Bazookas are not bad, but they aren't going to take down any high armor target, that's a fact.
USF ATG is inadequate and muni ability can be dodged, just move back for 20 seconds when you see it used, that's a fact.
Faction has only a single unit capable of reliable 200+ pen that isn't limited to 1, that's a fact.

Your opinion about facts not being facts is just an opinion and not matter how many times it is repeated it will not become a fact.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 18:37 PMdistrofio

There have been countless examples of a faction completely relying on a single unit for it to carry the game, after being nerfed or even overnerfed the faction is adjusted and compensated and then the game keeps going.

I think those doom prophets should learn to adapt instead of having such a narrow mindset.

Nerf jackson wouldnt ruin USF, please do not exaggerate

Jump back to quoted post7 Nov 2019, 09:43 AMSupremeStefan

Its easy to say when u play only versus ai