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Well I say it's damn well worth it, I also trigger my demos for a single squad. Even then, the normal barrage shot is free, ofc more rng dependant but still it's free.

It's not worth at all.

Demo is something different than B-4.

You have planted demo to wipe something but you can not be sure if enemy will ever stand there so if he is, you are using demo.

When I see single squad in range of my B-4, I NEVER use my B4 (unless it's vet 5 obers squad) because I know how long realod is and what if 20sec later something better will show up?

I'm using B-4 all the time and I know what Im talking about. Never use precision strike for 1 squad.
Even if B4 stands useless for 2mins it's OK because it's always ready to hit something big.

Plus Stuka isn't a granted counter (unless luftwaffe supply) because the cost of it is so huge, especially considered the need for using tons of muni on your units as axis. (lmg, schreks, riflenades and so on)

I would say Soviets need more ammo than axis (at least I need).

LMG, Schrecks, riflenade, s-mines, recon, stuka (keep in mind you can convert fuel to muni or drop ammo at point) vs spam molotovs, at nades, Oourah, zis barrages, mines, schocks nades, recon, presicion strike and mother russia.

I consider myself a reasonably skilled, at least average player and I find it completely impossible to keep moving about all potential B-4 target all the time. And even if I would be able to do that, it would render my units combat ineffective, as your troops can't really fight effectively without remaining stationary. In reality, if you don't have the doctrinal set-up to deal with a B-4 quickly, it is only a matter of time until you'll lose your army and base buildings.

Potential B-4 target is usually your blob or your tiger. Nothing more. If I see OKW blobber I'm forcing him to retreat and then precision strike on med truck.
Whose fault was that? Mine with B4 that I wiped 50% army or his? His fault because he was moving in one blob and retreat whole blob at the same time - knowing that there is B4.

If you keep your units at reasonable distance, B4 won't hit you. Your enemy will wait for something juicy rather than 1 squad.
Moving your Tiger is not a big issue. It's cool just to show enemy your front armor and take shots, right? Well, feel like USF feel when microing Jacksons.
Also plane is obvius sign that B4 is coming.I love when my enemy sees recon plane right over his Jagdtiger and still not moving it

And all of this doesn't even tackle the subject of base buildings, recently retreated units (which are not even under your control directly after arriving at the base for several seconds) and the close to immobile OKW heavies getting wiped by the B-4, which even someone excelling at micromanaging his/her units couldn't do anything against as long as he/she doesn't have an off-map artillery to deal with it.

Stuka zu fuss, falsch, massive flank or sneaky flank and decrew vetted B4.
Base bulding are unreachable for B4 - only on certan maps like Crossing Woods.
Simple solution, veto such maps.
If B4 can reach your base on Rails and Metal, it means it was built really far from the base.

Having recently played mostly 2vs2 games with a friend, I honestly think that 4 out of 5 games in which the B-4 made an appearance, it was the deciding factor of the game and pretty much always ended in our defeat. It is already quite questionable that any single unit should have such an impact, and most certainly not reasonable that this unit should have that impact while comfortably sitting in the base on the other side of the map, with the entire army infront of it to shield it - and that potentially against an OKW team that doesn't even have access to off-maps to counter it, since none of the faction's default commanders have it.

This is my favourite.
It's impossible for AT Axis team to lose against B4.
One plays as Ostheer with one stuka doctrine and wait to see which doctrine enemy picked up or take Luftwaffe support and feed OKW mate with fuel.

Kick this, kick that... And what in return?
(if it's not a troll thread )

I mentioned the *old* ISU when saying that the only unit I can think of that randomly wipes squads more often than the M8 was the old ISU. Nothing, not even the KT, has ever come close to wiping squads as often as the pre-patch ISU.

And I think that was your attempt at subtly calling me and Axis fanboy? Maybe not... not sure how to take it.

Oh, and last time I checked 40 + 40 + 90 is more than 120. Although I'm not sure why the amount of fuel required to unlock something is at all relevant to the discussion at hand... No matter how you try and spin it, the KT is the most expensive tank in the game - so it should be the best individual tank in the game. Contrary to your belief, it's actually pretty damn counter-able.

My bad, miss click about OKW fuel, I was thinik about something else while writing.
I'm not saying is uncounterable, Im saying that without P47 you can do nothing against decent OKW player.
Jackson? Bounce...Bounce..Bounce..Bounce.. 57mm? maybe 4-5 of them can do something. Bazookas? Yea....
Flank with Jacksons? Schrecks blob. 5sec and Jackson is dead. It's a way better for Soviets, they have few option to counter KT.
IS2, ISU, B4.
As USF? Lucky flank so schrecks won't get you or P47 and pray Jackson will finish it.

I'm nor arguing it should not be best tank - it should but I remember when people were saying that ISU is most expensive assault gun so it should be best. Well... ISU got nerfed because of wiping powers which King Tiger also has right now.