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Please, please, PLEASE do not use Stuka oneshotting as an argument that FHQ is fine. I would much rather Stuka NOT oneshotting the FHQ because then this discussion can stand on its own two legs. I would much prefer OKW getting more possibilities to counter it (lol at ISGs).

Cool. While we're at it, can we give soviets more AT at T1, because I refuse to get proper tier to get proper counters to opponents armor as well?
This is basically what you're asking for.

FHQ either wins the game in the first several minutes, or it succumbs to a Stuka strike and the doctrine is left worthless in the late game. This all-or-nothing approach is not fun, in my opinion.

Its not, that is why the doctrine is deep bottom of the "to use" doctrine list of soviet doctrines. But its how it is and nothing indicates anything will be changed, so you might as well start using proper hard counters at your disposal instead of asking for nerfs.

First of all, it locks the OKW player into a specific tier, negating the possibility of a medic truck until way into the mid game. Second of all, it dictates the first fuel expenditure of the OKW player.

First of all, it locks soviets out of useful infantry and potent armor, second of all, used early it forces soviets to use horrible infantry that doesn't scale against potent OKW one.
Third, it greatly delays soviet tiering and when placed early, basically takes away 100% of units that actually CAN fight OKW.

The investment for a Stuka is much larger at 100 fuel which comes at the same time the Soviet guy accumulates 150 fuel, assuming equal map control (protip: FHQ is usually set up near chokepoints and fuel cutoffs, but let's be generous and assume equal map control). This STILL leaves the Soviet player with a 90 fuel window of opportunity, AFTER building his first tier building, and BEFORE the Stuka arrives. Show Spoiler

Will you drive your stuka into soviet base after destroying FHQ?
No, you will keep barraging him all the game.

Why would you need other vehicle first? He will have shitty AT guns to deter it, he will have no infantry that could even start a decent fight before 8-10 minute, he will have all of his forces consolidated in a single part of the map, he will automatically loose 100% of the fights in any place that HFQ aura doesn't reach, you are not forced to keep going at him like a lemming and can go around to cut him off-your faction is designed with low resources on mind, his not.

The spoiler part is completely irrelevant, your tiering is not a side cost, FHQ is and a hefty one as well.

You're basically 100% wrong in this whole post.

Urban defence became beyond useless after introduction of walking stuka, which destroys 300 mp 60fu fhq (and probably all troops around it) no matter what in first barrage. In fact, this doctrine worse than nkvd now.

Its not like it wasn't useless way before that.
Wehr MHT can burn it down with a SINGLE incendiary round.

This is very cost effective ability if you play against complete and utter noobs and possibly worst thing you can do against anyone who have a clue about the game.

It costs as much as TIER building and can die to upgraded T0 units(flamers) or non combat units(OKW truck ramming).

Asking for it to be even more vulnerable is as brilliant idea as asking for PaK43 mobility to be nerfed.

And if your ally used 200 muni to erase 900mp and 180 fuel, then in my book its a god damn sweet deal.

Now last but not least:

You do NOT go to forum asking for nerfs on something you have met for the first time.

You go to forum asking for advices on how to play against it.

Load 280 KG stuff onto a supermarket cart, sure.


Maybe the Russian wheel is so magical that even Cons can drive a T34 with bicycle action.

I've said "work".

Not "do shopping".

You know, the stuff you do to get money, not to spend them.


@steel wheels can't merge so they are fine/underpowered

It's not a total lack of fuel cost. Fuel drops to zero after you call it in.

Actually, its 90% fuel penalty, you can still pump out 221 and 251 if you're willing to or use elite training.

Also, its not like you will not have a shitload of fuel by the time you can call TA, so 2-3 panzers on field are not rarity if you don't suicide.

Lower rank=playing for shits and giggles, everything goes.

Higher rank=using everything that nets wins with least amount of effort, can indicate a balance problem, but doesn't have to.

That pretty much goes for.... every other game as well.
There are things that work, there are things that doesn't work, high ranks will use any and all cheeze they can, because they usually know the faction and can exploit it to greatest potential.