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Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 12:54 PMKatitof

You can use it on UC or AEC(more mobile, can protect itself with smoke) you know.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 13:19 PMeasierwithaturret

There's more to it than just stats. The first issue is what the MGs are actually fighting against. Grenadier rifle grenades can easily dispatch MGs even in frontal assaults. Thus the effectiveness of MGs in controlling infantry is greatly reduced when the enemy's most numerous unit has an effective tool for countering them. USF smoke nades also seriously neuter axis MGs but aren't such a problem because they still require you to assault the MG, rather than simply sweeping it from the field. An idea which has been floated around for a while now is to reduce the range of rifle nades on suppressed units; I think that is a pretty good idea.

An issue specific to the .50cal is the point where it enters the game. By the time the .50 is available your opponent may have mortars, snipers, grenades, flamethrowers, light vehicles etc. A key factor to the effectiveness of the MG42 is it is available at a time when the opponent doesn't have any safe way of countering it.

MGs are good against OKW in the early game, but as the game goes on and the green cover is depleted, volks blobs are able to out-damage MGs sitting in yellow or no cover. It is in this scenario MG suppression does appear to be lacking, although this affects axis MGs just as much.

Given the design philosophy of USF as a mobile, offensive faction I don't think they really need a more effective area-denial MG. I'd be interested in seeing some changes made to the .50 to make it more effective as an offensive tool to support advancing infantry. Yes, I know that isn't realistic but then neither is anything at this point. An alternative more palatable to the realism crowd would be to increase its range (and possibly pen, although light vehicles have a hard enough time as is) while retaining the limited firing cone. The only way it will be able to function as a blob-counter is if you address the issues with infantry covered above.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 02:29 AMluvnest

Clever and cautious changes, I like it.

Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2015, 10:12 AMIA3 - HH

we discuss about future not now
i agree, for now relic should focus on new features and improve engine

Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2015, 20:10 PMnodickwilliams

I have always advocated moving shrecks from volks, as it is both horribly unauthentic, and the core of all imbalances with okw infantry and light vehicle play.

Shrecks don't belong on volks, sturmpioneers, and not fucking obersoldaten.

An entirely new unit is NEEDED.

My suggestion.

Built in Med HQ. 4 man squad, 300 mp, 90 munition shreck, equipped with mp40s. Side upgrade for volks to equip 2x stg package and panzerfausts.


This gets rid of expendable blob infantry. Makes volks less hideous frankenstein unit. Fixes fucking shreck issues for good. A player wouldn't be able to viably afford more than 2 shreck squads unlike how easily we can have 4-6 volk shrecks. Then we can increase volk costs to like 260, and give them some mp40s and stgs. We don't have to nerf shrecks or volks into uselessness because of this stupid design. Its better to fix relics crappy design, whether they actually realize what needs to be done or its ogre.

This would be the best possible solution I could think of.