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Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2014, 19:43 PMAchtAchter

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Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2014, 18:38 PMMilkaCow

Just as a reminder - this is always averages. You can hit more or less etc.

Every single Shock entity needs 80 HP * 1.5 armor = 120 small arms damage to kill. There are 6 Shocks, so 6 * 120 = 720 damage to kill a whole squad.
Every single Obersoldat needs 80 * 1.25 armor / .75 incoming accuracy = 133.33 small arms damage to kill. There are 4 Obersoldaten, so 4 * 133.33 = 533.33 damage to kill a whole squad.

Keep in mind that some weapons have penetration values (M3A1SC, M3A1HT, M5, HMGs, ...) which kill quicker as they will pierce the armor more often.

Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2014, 18:15 PMMilkaCow

Fallschirms are 380 manpower. They get called in for 440 manpower, but their actual value is 380. If you reinforce them it says "47.5" right? Reinforce is usually half the entities value.

-- 0 -- 5 -- 10 -- 15 -- 20 -- 25 -- 30 -- 35
71.09 71.09 28.90 04.33 02.69 01.45 00.59 00.59 Shocks
33.65 32.87 32.14 31.43 30.71 29.96 28.98 27.99 LMG34 Obers
64.24 62.99 54.23 36.92 29.44 24.20 19.04 14.34 StG44 Obers
59.22 59.22 49.86 30.44 22.07 15.98 10.23 04.83 PGrens

Keep in mind that the StG44 for the last one are better against cover (they do NOT ignore cover, but do not have so much reduced dmg vs it) and have better moving modifiers than the LMG34. Also added PGrens since a lot of people say they have such a low damage. At 14 range they actually deal more dmg than Obersoldaten and as you can see they almost deal as much damage as StG44 upgraded Obers.

Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2014, 17:56 PMMilkaCow

Shocks and Obersoldaten are price wise pretty well aligned to be honest
-- 0 -- 5 -- 10 -- 15 -- 20 -- 25 -- 30 -- 35
71.09 71.09 28.90 04.33 02.69 01.45 00.59 00.59
33.65 32.87 32.14 31.43 30.71 29.96 28.98 27.99

The difference is, that Obersoldaten have a good dmg output at all ranges, but are only a 4 men squad and their LMG (which is ~60% of their DPS) can drop. I think Shocks need to get a bit too close and their damage drops off to much. I'd remove the armor of Obersoldaten and their 1.25 accuracy against retreating squads. If that turns out to be insufficient I'd go for .05 less accuracy on all ranges. If they still feel bad at that point, I'd go for making them weaker, but also cheaper as I am not a fan of such elite troops. Once again, Obersoldaten might be slightly overperforming, but not by far. It's mostly their long range damage profile that really makes them feel so strong. If Shocks get a flank on them they kill them hard.

Since JHeartless mentioned it:
Obersoldaten should not be in between Shocks and Fallschirms.
Fallschirms are 380 MP
Shocks are 390 MP
Obers are 400 MP

Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2014, 17:27 PMwooof

the last files i had extracted were from april 24, but the scatter used to be 12/15 for both auto fire and barrage. not to mention its damage was increased by 50%... its had a massive ninja buff.