Profile of JHeartless

You don't expect Jackson's speed to be on pair with ligh vehicles, do you?

It doesn't lack mobility at all, quite the opposite.

See the m10 stats I posted. It is not faster then a light vehicle yet faster then the Jackson. Use that as the basis. Without smoke or any kind if defense but speed and range I expect them both to be excellent but they aren't. It doesn't have the range of an elephant or anything.

I think you must not use the Jack very often. Again I am all for a cost increase. The glass canon aspect of the Jackson just doesn't pay enough dividends.

If you want Jackson replaced than beg Relic so they implement this into the game but I wouldn't keep my hopes high as the idea of Pershing soaking the damage, followed by Jackson doing the damage from the second line gives me the nightmares.

Yes and thats the rub. Look at this logically though Oz.

A jackson as GREAT as the DPS is isnt as good as a Pak40s.

A Pak 40 can follow a Tiger. It would have even a better effect. Sure it doesnt have the front loaded damage and isnt as fast but the DPS is better.

Jacksons are a HUGE economical risk to follow a Tank but a Pak really isnt.

I think, with 640 hp, you get a unit, with SU 85 hp, SU 85 range, WITH turret - faster rotation, good speed, acceleration/dec, very good penetration with HVAP and vet, and 240 (1,5x) damage. I dont think, on hand a player with good micro, would be balanced vs axis tank, maybe, a smoke addition, for 30-45 muni price, if really need something.

This may be true. Which is why it should have the mobility of the M10. Remember the M10 isnt as mobile as the Puma. And people still lose Pumas. All the arguments of the greatness of the M36 seem to be its range/mobility.

But the range of the Panther could be used to argue how great the Panther is right (after all the Jackson only has 10 more) ? And everybody thinks the Panther is lack luster. But it gets over 800HPs has great armor, range is slightly less, has Blitz can get smoke etc etc etc etc etc and the Panther isnt considered good.

Make the Jackson cost as much as a Panther I dont care. If they want to buff it up to 640HPs. It still wont have an MG upgrade. It still wont have Blitz, Smoke, High armor (even higher with Vet). It would still be worse off then the Panther.

If TD doctrine was what made USF armor special and gave them the edge then shouldnt they have the VERY best unquestionably the best TD? Because I can do better with Panthers. Simple tank a few hits retreat repair do this enough times until you get Vet then go on a rampage. This doesnt work for a Jackson.

The Panther after all can bounce Bazookas, Snare attempts and AT gun rounds. The Jackson cannot and should not.

All this can be done with a Panther AND they can access heavies to boot. Playing USF right now is like saying THE BEST YOU CAN GET is an unarmored half dead Panther. Imagine if that was all Ost had to use.

Still isn't it the reason people rush the M36 into enemy tanks is to get maximum penetration power? Buffing penetration would make it so that people will start attacking from long range right? The penetration for the M#6 should be 200/180/160 short-long. At long range it can even bounce off a panzer IV.... It should penetrate all those mediums except panther perfectly.

HVAP does just fine and at Vet 3 with HVAP it has 0 problems. In fact if it was more mobile it could get behind the heavies where they have weaker armor.

I use dual M10s and since it costs little more and they only have slightly worse penetration and are cheaper i.e. vet faster you can survive this

2 M10s means they can survive 6 hits as a pair. 3 hits each. The Jackson can survive 3 hits. It will get blitzed on. Extra Penetration will not save you from a Puma or Blitzing P4/Panther.

Really with lackluster HPs and Mobility it might as well be a casemate tank like the SU85. There is no room to maneuver the thing and escaping is a challenge.

It has no AI either like brought up in another post with no AI no armor and no HPs unlike an Elephant/JagdTiger/JP4 its range doesnt amount to much because it WILL get chased down and destroyed quite easily.

Its a high value target. Its both expensive and the easiest dedicated Tank Destroyer in game to kill.

It either needs to be able to easily escape situations (mobility) or its needs more HPs to survive so it can for it to be an asset and not a liability.

Raise the cost 10 fuel and give it 640 HPs for all I care. It requires more surviability more then anything else right now.

First of all Jackson is not M10.
Yeah, they are fragile, but they have great range and turret instead. And they are dangerous as hell. It kills STUG in 2 shots and Two of them can kill the Tiger in no time.

If you want better durability, then something else must be nerfed, because it might be overpowered then...

Your right...

It had twice the armor of an M10 a much bigger gun and yet only went 2MPHs slower. If armor =s durability in game then it should have more HPs like double by your logic.

But I dont think anyone is asking for that.

The more I think about it the more I think even making it as fast as the M10 wouldnt screw over the M10 since the M10 has vet around mobility and LOL SURPRISE SURPRISE the Jackson doesnt. Its gets more site range. Making it once again a defensive tool.

If they dont want it to have more Speed then give it 640 HPs.