Profile of Imagelessbean

Oh god why?!

He's joking. The croc received a literal list of nerfs, and exactly 0 buffs.

Vet 0 obers were always trash until they fought team weapons.

Obers start to shine from vet 2 where they get insane +40% accuracy bonus.

Wait...this is simply not true. At release vet 0 Obers were insane, they even had bonuses against retreating units.

Vet for basic infantry from COH2.org:

Scripts
1: Unlocks the 'Trip Wire Flares' ability
2: +40% accuracy, +25% molotov range
3: -20% weapon cooldown, -40% received accuracy, -25% AT grenade recharge

Grens
1: Unlocks the 'Field First Aid' ability
2: +40% accuracy
3: -20% cooldown, -23% received accuracy, -25% recharge time for Panzerfaust

Rifles
1: Unlocks the 'Anti-Tank Rifle Grenade' ability
2: -23% received accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown
3: -20% received accuracy,+30% accuracy, -50% ability recharge time, +25% grenade range

Volksgrenadiers
1: -10% received accuracy
2: +30% accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown
3: Passive Healing, -10% received accuracy
4: +40% sight range, +30% accuracy
5: -30% cooldown, -30% reload

Tommies
1: +10 Sight range in cover
2: Received accuracy -33%,
3: Adds 2 scoped enfield rifles to squad,+40% Accuracy,-20% cooldown

Just based on this, volks, which we said had the worst vet 5 in OKW compared to their mainline allied infantry (for instance Sturmpios have so much deeper vet that they obviously beat all other engineer units), volks are still in line with all other Allied infantry at vet 2, do not get the received accuracy bonuses other units do ever, but to compensate get free healing whenever out of combat, and get far more bonuses related to their shooting of guns than other infantry. Ultimately, they get better at shooting, remain ok at avoiding incoming fire, and get no better with grenades (which as OKW has meant little since they have often avoided using munitions expenses, especially in the late game where tanks matter). On top of that they require 0 upgrades in fuel (unlike every other mainline infantry, arguably even Grens), they have the cheapest reinforce, lowest initial cost, and they vet quickest. I understand vet is being adjusted slightly, but seriously where is the vet 3 in 5 levels of vet, because here it looks like vet 3 in 3 levels, plus 2 more for extra fun, and this in the unit with some of the weaker vet in the OKW.

Soviet sniper needs to be brought in line with Ost sniper, which is now clearly better, and often shoots at squads of equivalent size or smaller. However, overbuffing would be annoying.

elchino7 with some excellent suggestions as usual.

Penals need to be looked at, and the scout car needs to be looked at. I favor removing the clown car aspect and just upping its damage and health.

Well its partially reasonable/relevant , firstly why should you suffer a resource penalty the full length of the game for vet bonuses rarely achieved? Would you choose that if you had a choice? Probably not. Volks atm are shit, they are spammed for impact and dare I say only good with high vet? It's not always about how good a faction is but how it contrasts with the opposition

At the end of the day its getting this much needed rework for a reason.. The whole resource penalty for crap isn't working. And Allied is too strong.

Again this is really not true. Units regularly receive vet 4 and 5. Harder on some (Kubel) almost guaranteed on others (Volks). You get the bonus of vet 4 and 5 because OKW had few tanks and their infantry had to be able to stand up alone to armor in the late game. Now they get it and have no downsides.

None of the OKW bonuses are justified without a cost. In past games you paid a real cost (fuel and munitions) and a opportunity cost (timing of units). To offset this you had cheap tech to keep you in the game, and lots of bonuses. Now you get all those bonuses at no cost, while other factions literally have to pay to have those things. How, and I mean this, can any faction keep up?

OKW should feel resource starved by having to pay for all these upgrades, all over the place. You want healing, fine here it is for x fuel and y mp. You want vet 4, fine just pay x fuel and y mp, and you can start to use it. You want panthers, no problem, just pay x fuel and y mp and you can unlock it. You want a giant suppressing gun that has 40 range and can penetrate tanks on your TIER UPGRADE? Not an issue, here just pay for that too. It can have all this stuff but it should come at cost.

The Luchs is still a devastating chase unit. It is the first unit that can safely ignore base defenses and chase infantry all the way home. How will Brits stop it? If it doesn't hit a mine a retreating unit is always going to be wiped. At vet 1 it can cloak and disappear anyway.

Also saying, well vet 4 and 5 are rare so who cares. Is like saying, well the unit is OP but it is not able to appear on the field often so when it does who cares that the opposing team will just lose even if they played better? Imagine if the Croc got 5 levels of vet, people would be screaming in the forums and a hotfix would be needed. In team games vet 5 is extremely common especially on larger heavier German vehicles.