Profile of Imagelessbean

Allied supply drop is less useful in larger team games, where the chance of it being shot down approaches 100% as the game continues. When it first appears it is a risk, and by the 15 minute mark it is impossible to use, with the number of MG equipped tanks and Schwer HQ's sitting around. Also OKW base structures 20mm's are numerous and get a fair crack at hitting it as well.

I would still rate the Wehr version as far superior in every way.

One this is luchs.

Second thinks is that OKW can get shrecks or incendiary nades until they get at least 45 fuel and wait until medics are build.

This leaves them very vunurable to fast m20 , clowcar because right now your option how to cunter is is raketen and if it get flanked , well , that a shame you loose a lot of map.


Also how you can flush maxims out of buildings without incendiary grenades ?

This is a luchs, so...? What is your first point again, it's not really clear.

OKW's vulnerability to one strat, clowncars, is going to be somewhat real, but in trade you receive a tank invulnerable to scout cars, and they cannot chase you with clowncars into your base. Once the volks have retreated the fast luchs will punish their slower tech immediately, and they will lose because you can chase them into their base. At best the luchs needs to arrive later, or it needs nerfs to bring it in line with other lite tanks. You also ignore that Sturms can still build mines now quite easily and force nice trades with these lite vehicles while you tech.

You can ignore maxims in buildings for two reasons. You can decap and flank with kubels, and you can build more volks squads than maxims so you can walk around capping points or getting in your own buildings and hanging on.

OKW base structures were provided with bonuses to allow them to hold ground because they could not field as many tanks as other factions. With these new changes the bonuses acquired by building these structures should be removed.

For instance, now with full fuel OKW can place a Schwer on the field, early and far forward giving it huge map control potential with limited risk which before was more of a handicap because they would not receive a tank from the building for another 5 minutes or more.

The ability of OKW to field more tanks also means that units like Obers, which are designed to soft counter their hard infantry counters, need to be looked at very closely. Almost certainly their LMG34 needs to go up to 120 munitions.

Call in infantry probably should also require an upgrade, as the reason they did not have it before was to compensate for limited munitions.

OKW Panther is too good for its current place. It should be in Schwer but require an unlock within the building to build.

Shrek blobs are gonna be the be all end all in team games. Volks, if they are to remain this way, may need to lose shreks, and have an upgrade that gives them fausts. They could then gain an MP40 upgrade or something else to help improve their dps. As it stands Volks already vet faster in team games because shreks let them hit vehicles quickly and pick up vet. While allied units are shooting at low cost volks squads for limited vet options.

Vet 5 seems completely ridiculous now, outright better form of the vet system all other armies depend on.

Luchs is too good. Its ability to chase down and wipe squads is much higher than the stuart or the T70. If it is to remain in place it needs to come with low health. As it stands if you start to lose and retreat, while this thing appears it will instantly be game over. The vet on the Luchs is also outright better than other light vehicles

JPIV still needs to be addressed.

PF rifle nade bug still not addressed, needs to have no maximum distance.

JT, used correctly, is still unbeatable in team games, and will be more so now with tons of munitions to build mines and shreks. Unit should be closely examined. The reason it existed before was to compensate for a faction that would have 0 tanks on the field when it arrived. Now it can support multiple tanks, which makes its synergy too high.

OKW sturm pios with flames are going to be too good. The unit was as good as it was to compensate for how few you would have. Now with munitions and more MP because you can afford vehicles (which don't have to reinforce) these units will be way too good. Build into that their vet will help the vehicles repair faster and things are going to get out of control.

These changes to OKW have huge knock on effects that are not considered in the current patch notes. OKW cannot get straight buffs across the board (as they have here, excusing small changes to vet 4 and 5). OKW's ability to control team games will increase greatly at the expense of all other factions.

Edit: OKW abilities should have their prices raised to bring them in line with other factions. For instance ability to shoot through walls for JT needs a price increase, Combat Blitz needs a price increase, etc.

No, not at all. (Although you should keep your sweepers with your vehicle)

Here's what you do. Go play a dozen games and plant mines like crazy. Then, when you're up against someone using mines. Think about where YOU WOULD PUT THEM.

Helps tremendously at not running over mines. Don't blindly run over roads or through gaps or take the quickest path into the strat point etc etc. Also lets you have a pretty good idea on where to send the mine sweepers.

Mine placement is not random. It's largely predictable with experience and in some cases common sense. (Angoville intersection for example) 1, maybe 2 mine sweepers (on larger maps) is plenty.

With vaulting, you can almost always avoid this stuff. The only mines that are kind of bullshit is putting them on the back side of a building by the door where he will never see them from the default camera angle and gibbing his squad when he enters/exits the building.

Yes sweepers are important, and yes you should be actively checking areas for mines frequently, but it is very hard to do in smaller game modes where units are frequently split up into single unit groups and you simply cannot micro that many men.

The AoE was lower before because of balance issues with wipes. Now that we had to increase AoE mines represent too large a threat, as you would expect. There needs to be a solution to deal with this problem that allows players a chance to respond to the threat without sweepers.

Mines, even when detected can be very effective, and a single munitions to munitions cost is not representative for this device. Mines are designed to force opponents to take opportunity cost losses, by slowing attacks, or forcing sweeps before attacks, or prelim arty, etc. Therefore, simply knowing a mine is present and removing it does not automatically mean equal sharing of costs. Even in real life mines rarely do large amounts of damage to armies, but they force decisions to be made which do cause serious and long lasting consequences.

OKW is weak in 1v1 and 2v2, but seriously in 3v3+ this faction is still outright filthy. The ability to place FHQ's in these modes removes the need for Wehr units to retreat or tech to med. The ISG is still outright devastating. The resource conversion is less costly and helps you snowball. The offmaps are available and cost effective, because of resource conversion.

From my point of view OKW is the most synergistic faction in larger game modes, and one of the easiest ones in which to win with in the largest game modes. It even has a solution to Brit late game in the JT or the heavy use of Jaeger inf, which largely ignore the effective high health of Brit IS.

Buffs to OKW for small game modes need to come with corresponding decreases in its effectiveness in larger game modes or it is gonna be a steam roller again for Axis teams in larger game modes.