Profile of Imagelessbean

Reposted here as per mod request:

I am not sure how well SI functions in 1v1, but it is still badly broken in 3v3 and 4v4 maps. I understand that we are not trying to balance the game around 3v3 and 4v4, but we should not make it a dumping ground for OP commanders.

Problem: SI's greatest weakness in smaller maps is the lack of early map control, but this is largely negated in larger maps where the same number or only slightly more points are present. A teammate will easily pick up the slack and cap any points an SI player cannot get to. Large maps also play well into SI because it discourages infantry use, and punishes AT guns by making them take a long time to walk to their target. Tanks can move rapidly, hitting soft points and easily win back map control. Finally, there is little risk here for the SI player. Even if a tank is lost they often did much damage and their teammates can pick up the slack while they continue to build tanks.

Solution:
1) Industry fuel could be tied to points on the map. Industry would boost fuel income from points captured, not give it to you because comrade Stalin is feeling generous. This would encourage players to play well and take points, but would also allow Ost players a way to counter the fuel income.

2) Alert players they are going against SI. Right now in team games it can be incredibly hard to guess you are about to see an early T34. If you build a pak and an early T34 does not appear you lose map control to conscripts. Ost players need a way to know, with some distinct sign that there will be an early tank push. I suggest highlighting all fuel points like they are occupied by Opel Blitzs.

3) SI encourages camping with repair stations. Repair stations should count towards total pop to reduce them being spammed.

4) There needs to be a clear weakness for picking SI in larger team games, as it stands right now there is none. I would be interested in people's opinion about how to fix this. T34's are too difficult to counter with just Pak 40's and PG's or Grens. They are too inconsistent and protect too small an area. The SI player can also choose to ignore them all and attack deep behind the lines destroying ops, and taking out reinforcements.

I am tired to playing against SI, it encourages all of the worst pieces of COH, including ignoring map control, spamming a single unit, ignoring unit preservation, and in the late game camping around repair stations with artillery (KV-2). I don't mind making this doctrine unique, but it is still badly in need of a rework.

Also before biased against Soviets, Elite is also badly in need of a rework, I just have not played against it enough to come up with good ideas.

TLDR: 1) Income should be tied to map, 2) Give players warning SI is being used, 3) Repair stations should count towards total pop, 4) still needs a nerf of some kind.

If you believe T34 was bad and is now worse, then there is little we can do here. You fundamentally misunderstand this excellent tank.

I would argue that if anything it needs a nerf, in the shape of the removal of ram.

CoH 1 didn't have TrueSight™ so it mattered much less. I've been saying since the beta that a hold fire button would make sense.

Wanted to add to this. In addition to true sight there are two other pieces to this I think.

The units for which this was most important (AT guns) basically did for Wehr, and reloaded quickly for US. The pak would not shoot at infantry when cloaked (same as what this would do), and the US at gun fired so fast a first shot on infantry was not as devastating. Now since a Zis may only get 2 shots, losing half its firepower is pretty bad.

Also we had fewer specialized units in vCOH so firing at infantry was still useful for almost all units. Now with many specialized units we need them to be very focused on their goal.

all the maps are soviet territory hence all the houses are soviet houses.

there are small houses with only 2 windows and 1 door. those shits are deathdraps with this patch. 1 unit shooting, but all of them dying.

one step foward 2 steps back.

does the house also allows for the unit out in the window deall all of the squad damage??


houses need adjustment.

I disagree, houses are situational and knowing when to use them is important. They should not always be better than cover. In addition, they give you increased LOS and stop units from freezing. They also absorb artillery rounds for units behind them, and act as a sight block. They may not function now as free bunkers, but I like this.

I hate, absolutely hate, when two players are running for the same house, and pathing or a mere second is all that separates the win from the loss at the beginning of the game. It should always be deeper than this. Houses now do this better, by not guaranteeing a win.

Use them with AT squads to get good hits on tanks, or try them with mgs to cut off areas. One window is sufficient for these units.

I agree that this change is good. It continues to encourage infantry use in the game. COH2 has struggled with infantry use from its start, as tanks were generally far more attractive.