The trucks are a non issue. If you loose control of the map you're going to have to expect some sort of punishment. The trick on most maps is to manoeuvre around them, build artillery and shell them.
It's always a good idea to take at least on of the artillery doctrine commanders, preferably a self propelled artillery piece and then use it to punish arrogant OKW players.
I mean hell, watch any of Fortune's games, he uses artillery to punish OKW players for building IN THEIR OWN BASE. Great example in the replay bellow:
http://www.coh2.org/replay/45788/dotdotdot-v-fortune
Seriously the only building that OKW have that should arguably be changed is the Shwer but still even then it's not impossible to kill. A well placed AT gun can eliminate it for gods sake.
And before you say anything, no I'm not a Wherboo I'm actually a USF Fanboi.
This....granted its easier to replace a truck now that its not timer based..but come on how would you feel if a single strike(or a single strike plus a few more small hits) could kill one of your tech structure? Which is what would happen if the HP is lowered. |
Yeah but that isn't what he said. If he said 5-6 I wouldn't say anything. But 10 is a ridiculous number.
If that guy has 10 volks squads..I say hello indirect of any kind. When I do play OKW I usually end up with 3-4 volks with shrecks and indirect counters them very well especially if I miss time a mass retreat. Before some guy yells spam. even in current patch I hate dealing with raktens agaisnt fast moving allied vehicles especially in conjunction with allied indirect. |
Either increase the cost of the trucks or make them set up only at base.
It's a very strong advantage for early-mid game to have a reinforce/heal/retreat point on a faction that now is balanced and have 100% income.
It has healing (soviets for 250) reinforce (werh for 150 and 60 ammo) and retreat point (UK glider, or USF major that comes in mid-late game).
Blobs retreating to mid map, reinforcing and pushing again is too hard to counter if you always have to get back to base to reinforce, heal and get back to the battlefront. Keep reworking OKW please.
It's almost guaranteed that OKW income will be nerfed next patch. There forward points are a strength/weakness. |
They already do have to defend them against enemies. Their design is to be forward of the home sector. If you nerf the HP too much no one will build them outside hq area. |
Actually since 4v4 is what he is talking about I was playing as ost and watched a USF player beat a OKW player late game with a 5-6 rifle blob (they mostly had zooks, only 2 squads had bars) The okw guy had 4 volks squads, 1 ober, and two sturms. The OKW blob always ended up retreating w/o vehicle support. |
I still say we all need to wait a few days before balance suggestions |
Can we as a community hold on for about 4 days before we go shouting NERF Axis, Allies UP. Some are claiming OKW is winning every stage of the game now. I'd beg to differ, of the 6 UKF USF match pairings I've seen, the Allied combo can run okw off the field..taking advantage of the lack of MG. this is within the first few minutes. I'm not making a post about how okw needs an mg and is UP without it. I'm sure there will be a new meta to counter that opening, just as a new meta will form to counter the new okw. Let's wait a little shall we? |
Thread: OKW OP?4 Dec 2015, 10:30 AM
I havent played it but I've seen it in action. Wrecked a 3 plus rifle blob. literally won us the game. took out 3 vet 3 rifles, vet 3 RE, and wounded some paras bad. Let us secure the fuel/vp and make a foothold. |
Thread: OKW OP?4 Dec 2015, 10:20 AM
Successful allied players ive seen are abusing the fact okw does not have an early non doc mg. |
well since you say 2v2 upward is screwed..which btw i dont think anyone has played long enough to say op. So in your few games that is your conclusion. Well in my few games I just played in 4v4 usf plus brit combo ran over OKW early game every time, usf overwhelmed them, brits locked down the fuel.
Obviously more games need to be played before any of us can say anything..see what I'm saying. |