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From your origional post, it kinda feels like maybe Ost isnt the army for you.

Yes - it is tricky. To get the best out of them you really need paks or stugs, or both, yeah they are slow and clumsy and also vulnerable, thats exactly what playing Ost is all about.. you have to protect them well, if you can they are strong.

You seem to flood alot of munitions as ostheer. Versus above average Playes minefields get cleared via every kind of vehicle, sweepers or indirect fire 4/5 times. As tradeoff your infantry has still stock rifles, your tanks dont have a pintle mg and doctrine abilities are overrated anyway. And who the fuck needs tellermines.

One or two well placed minefields is affordable and can make a big difference vs USA spam. Its best to place them defensivley where its hard work for detectors to clear them (appart from retreat paths which is a cheeky one, need good timming though).

s mines lol u have to be blind to not see the sign

Even if he did see the sign, they still help win engagements by defending an MGs flank etc. Once you know hes seen it, just send somthing to see off any engies that come.

Both Axis factions rely on armour to trade effectively/cause bleed vs USF infantry.

Its absolutley possible to beat his inf without the use of front line tanks, and when you do you pretty much win the game.

There are many doctrinal abilities that help you vs infantry.

S - mines are also brutal.

Panzerwerfer is also good (and can be kept safe from Jackson).


Invest in countering his inf and Jackson is useless. It may be overperforming, but its not an I win button. Also I use Tigers mostly when I can put them in urban areas which negates range advantage of TDs.

Heres the thing with Ost panther: Ost is a faction built on varied combined arms that need to work together to maximise potential.

This is true in early tier infantry fighting, but it still holds true at higher tiers (tanks). THIS IS A CONCIOUS DESIGN DESICION.

Ost Panthers are not really supposed to be able to solo enemy armour, this is why they have a slow rate of fire.

Their 'purpose' in a combined Ost force is to fulfill the role that all other Ost units cannot, that is to chase wounded tanks and deal the killing blow, also to react to fast mediums putting pressure on flanks, or even on ocassion, dive a Katushka or Stuka.

However, they are not intended to be the sole or main AT for Ost, it should be a nice mix of other things. When you consider this, I think they do their job of chasing tanks very well due to their speed and armour, giving them great durability in FAST ACTIONS.

They are not best suited to slug outs with opposing tank destroyers, but this is the basis many people are judging them uppon (they feel underwhelming in this scenario).

You are Ost, you need to rely on Paks, thats how the faction works. It is not a fast attack faction, thats why the panther is a luxury unit to cover your big mobility weakness.

Going T4 really should mean you get a panzer werfer too (combined arms) and not necessarily spam 2 Panthers.

haha. Im not sure the JP4 had much going for it though