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? In the current live a cache in a 4vs4 is X4 more effective than in 1vs1. If one reduced the resource return is more player in game closer the 4vs4 economy will be to 1vs1 economy.

Currently the CP gain in 1vs1 is faster than in 4vs4. If one speeds up CP gain in 4vs4 again the economy will be closer to 1v1

There is so much you can fix with economy/teching timings. Units which are "problematic" on teamgames and not so much on 1v1 are also due to sheer number of units on the field, both to attack and to defend it and the actual flow of gameplay.

It's not the same to fluctuate around the map, spreading your army thin because you actually have to defend 2 VP on your own to actually win, in comparison to having the possibility of having 200 popcap sitting around on a single VP.

How unfortunate that the commander with Heat shells also has an ability which let's you decrew repair your tanks at will right?

This is the last and only soviet early game unit that hasn't been changed since launch. Everything else has been in almost all cases these have been nerfs. No wonder that the unit is being overused if whole faction around it has been scaled down with time.

The same problem applied to maxim pre patch - even after so many nerfs it was still the best non doctrinal unit soviets had in early game.

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PD: They got CP nerf. They used to come at 0CP.

Amazing how a unit that isn't changed or touch becomes OP because of popularity.

If you remove predators/counters of certain unit, then it becomes easier for that unit to be OP. If you nerf everything into fairness levels, whatever hasn't been changed becomes the new OP popular build.

Ex: if you remove Ele/JT from the game, people will bitch about ISU152 (on HE mode).
Ex2: if you delay faust, people start to cry about M3 clowncar (when in the past it was even worst since you actually didn't have any faust at all).

You can't nerf Stuka DB without also nerfing the allied equivalents.

Cant nerf Ele or JT without nerfing T34/85 and Mark Target.

Calli and ST can both be dealt with, both are powerful but don't need to be messed with. Especially st considering the rest of the doc is trash.

+1

Flares. Solved. Or next one will be IL-2 bombing run.

Brit comets' spammer laughs at you now.

1-For those who thinks Stuka Dive Bomb is fine.

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I said it before, fine on 1v1, manageable on 2v2. Stupid on 3v3+. Stupidly NINJA overbuff for something which was fine since game release...

2-JT/Ele damage change. Before agreeing or disagreeing with the change, you have to realise that nothing changes for the vehicles you are mentioning. Comets/T3485 have 800HP pools. At 280dmg they still die with 3 shots (800/320 = 2.5 ; 800/280 = 2.8). The ones been affected are the 640HP pool vehicles mostly.

320HP: M5/M15AA HT/MT HT/Priest/Suxton (this would go for 1 shot kill to 2)
400/560HP: no changes. T70/Su76/Stuart/Jackson/M8/M10/AEC/Valentine
640HP: "normal" medium tanks (from 2 to 3). T34-76/Su85/ M4C/Sherman/CalliOP/ Centaur/Cromwell/FF
720/800HP: no changes. T85/KV8/KV1/E8/Bulldozer/Pershing/Comet
1040HP: no changes (4shots). IS2/KV2/ISU152/
1400HP: no changes (5shots). Churchill

That been said, i don't find the Ele as oppressive as the JT (+15range). Volks/PF also are more resilient than grens which means it's easier to cover. Before the Ele/JT damage been changed, i'll like seeing other things done first. JT been changed (-5 range at minimum so it doesn't counter the Brits AT emplacement; removed engine upgrade) and things on their commanders tweaked down.
-If your concern is mark vehicle, that could be tweaked down to be equal to Command PV mark vehicle (means it survives +1 shot)
-If your concern is T76, they are 80f. Ele is 245f. JT is 280 IIRC but has more range, armor and HP. Easier to repair due to been OKW.

3-The stupid part of the CalliOP is the alpha damage on the first barrage. The ST has over the top random crits on hit.

Leaving things "OP" because other abilities are crap is just bad mentality, cause those same bad abilities are also part of other commanders which unfortunately don't have "OP" abilities to be meta.
For ex: in case of Ele commanders, Riegel been deploy by other sources such as SC. For ST commander, the Panzer commanders needs a BIG hand. Emergency repairs should be a copycat of Soviet auto repair. Cause it's either useless (as of now) or cheese OP as repair crit from USF.

So assuming we are talking 2v2s and up, COMBINED ARMS FROM COMBINED ARMYS.... with the use of COMBINED DOCTRINES.

Ele/JT/ISU/Howitzers were niche/situational units for 1v1 but the norm on 2v2. Let's not be hypocrites and say everyone needs to have a "Command PV/JT/Ele" in their loadouts as Axis or CalliOP/Party-Cover/LM/Guard Motor as allies if you want to increase your chances to win.

Such combined arms going mass CalliOP with double bar Rifles/RE zook and Party Cover spam with Comets vs JT or Ele with Command PV/PIV with CAS or Stuka support. It reminds me of how every game before WFA was ISU152 vs Ele.

How is the Elefant suddenly OP?

The unit is basically designed to be flanked. If I´m not mistaken it is literally the slowest unit in the game. Further it needs additional AT support to be viable. This is a highly expensive and fragile cardhouse. Circle it with medium tanks and it´s done. Kill the support and the Elefant can´t get off more than one shot.

IMO, it's less about the Elephant and more about the JT. The range discrepancy makes it easier to push the Ele with AT guns or have it closer to the front, while 85 range on the JT let it sit safe on the back. Nevertheless the most popular Ele doctrine also has the Stuka Dive, which makes it your best option at killing support weapons (mostly AT guns).
There's also plenty of maps on 2v2+ which makes flanking not a real option.

Copying from an older post

-Stuka bomb strike aoe distance from 3.75/5.625/7.5 to 3.75/7.5/11.25, mid damage from 0.15 to 0.35 (large buff)
-It seeems it added death critical on damage (so it's the same been near or far away from the explosion).

-Pre ninja buff: lethal range 6.5
-After ninja buff: lethal range 15

If the Stuka Dive Bomb wasn't UP before, and nobody ever asked for a buff, why did it merit a 5-times increase of the killing area?

I wouldn't mind making the Railway Artillery having this power, but not a pinpoint sound based ability which only cost 160muni.
IB4: but demos! Yeah, those are stupid as well.

On an unrelated note i would like seeing test, Howitzers costing less mp but fuel AND having extra damage against heavies and even more super-heavies. LeFH, 152, B4 (it should be 2 shots with half the damage), Priest, Suxton. 25% and 50% respectively (it would go to 200-240).

TL;DR:
-Brummbar is fine.
-Elephant is fine. The doctrine on which it belongs it's not, mostly Stuka Dive. The rest are fine&good abilities which unfortunately will always overshadow other commanders.
-JT is not fine.
-Many maps which makes super units be highly oppressive with little variety of counterplay.