Worked for me great, delay was a bit longer but match up was really better. No revert plz. |
Does the Panzerwerfer now get a correct damage modifier vs garrisons now, or will it still keep instawiping garrisons?
(Katyusha has 25% damage modifier; the Panzerwerfer currently has 100% damage modifier - i.e., no damage reduction)
Otherwise, the patch seems great.
This bug is widely abuse in 4vs4 and win many games by itself where there is a lot of building like Loch.
Conscript AT-nades doing nothing to tigers and up are pretty lame too.(ok for no engine crits, but at least it must do some damage and slow down those beasts a bit.
This must be fixed ASAP plz Relic.
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Really not sure about the maxim nerf as it was essential at stopping OKW from raping the opening phase. Something must be given to compensate that big loss, because thing will get ugly fast in 4vs4... And SOV will get very unpopular quickly.
The problem is not that the Maxim is op, it's rather the sore lack of viable options in the opening phase vs the OKW.
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Excellent work, stuff that should have been done by Relic long ago !!!!
Thanks to all your team !!! 3x bravo ! |
Nicely said !!! |
T34/76, while being crappy tanks, don't get destroyed by 3 Shreck volleys. Shrecks themselves are fine, Volks with Shrecks however are not. Nerfing shrecks would just make Pgrens with shrecks awkward. Why do people want to nerf Shrecks if the core problems are Volks equipped with them?
Spot on !
Still, i have to add that shrecks are a bit too good vs infantry. |
Nice post overall. Some suggestion are rather good, some other are not...
The good :
Flame nades;
Arty in base;
Stuka;
No shreck vs infantry.;
Rest...no.
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It's a great perk to have it early in a game, on a large map it's a decisive advantage...
Just make them come no faster then a US major.
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This is not the tipical thread talking about nerfs or buffs, I just wan't to throw some ideas that will make you think... and the final purpose is to balance the game in all modes (1v1 to 4v4). These ideas could be implemented in a private beta test. And at least I need someone from Relic Staff to read it or write here [Kyle my friend, you are my namesake!]
1-Map resources limit/scaling:
It is well known that 1v1 maps usually have less resources than 4v4 maps(as well as 2 fuel and ammo points, most of the maps are limited to 10 standard points specially 1v1 maps).
10 std points (arnhem,angoville, semosky,moscow,rails and metal,etc)
11 std points (steppes)
12 std points (angermuende, ecliptic fields, hill, lanzerath,etc)
13 std points (refinery)
14 std points (General Mud)
The problem in bigger maps and team games are that the time from early to late game comes much faster than 1v1 games. Caches in 1v1-2v2's are risky, in 3v3-4v4 are safe income. It should be interesting to rework the amount of std points from bigger maps, and / or limit the amount of caches that a map can have. That will make early and mid game much longer in team games, while remaining the same in 1v1 games.
2-Handheld rocket weapons aim time (Bazooka,Panzerschreks).
I think the role of the rocket weapons was not to seek for tanks and destroy them, they were used for deffending from vehicles. Right now, either USF ,WERH and OKW (or RUS with partisan) can blob a big amount of squads and Attack move. This "strat" works great against light and medium vehicles making them useless in mid late-late game. P2 Lucht suffers from captain, medium tanks suffers from volk blobs with shreks. some AI tanks can't deal with blobs or require a high amount of micro when the blob requires no micro.
What I think it should be done is, increase the aim time of a bazooka and reduce other reload values to make the time between rockets the same as it is now. You can increase the far acuracy to compensate for that but this will make A-move blobs much easier to kite while remaining the same in case of tanks penetrating your territory. adding aim benefits when green cover or garrison could be fine as an ambush benefit.
I think light ,medium and AI tanks will benefit from this feature and will make blobing more useless requiring to combine arms (raketen, AT guns, jacksons, Jagdpanzer) will be needed to "hunt" tanks.
3-Suppresion:
There a few issues regarding this:
3.1- mines:
I think mines should have a suppresion radius for infantry as it had in coh1. This will also stop a flanking attack giving you the time to relocate your mg's , and stop the damaged squad avoiding to trigger more mines in the path with the result of a full wipe.
3.2 Mobile arty weapons should have suppression as Pwerfer does (I'm not going to talk about Pwerfer damage, just the suppresion). This will help to stop blobs, in case of OKW stuka when missing the target it'd be nice to deal some suppresion in a radius, (at least yellow suppresion) same with Kat, that will make the units more prone to retreat because right now after the first salvo, hey can move freely out of the rockets area. (UKF base arty can benefit from suppresion sice it's damage is not significant so it can be used for creating a suppresion area to stop infantry pushes)
3.3 Grenades range when in suppresion.
It is not fair to be naded when a units comes frontal to you MG , got suppressed and it nades you or throw smoke. I think that all the yellow suppressed units should have a 50% range reduction in grenade/smoke, this will avoid single units raiding an MG frontally. You can still throw smoke to help a second squad to approach but you won't be able to smoke the MG to nulify its position.
4- The design of big maps.
Most of the big maps are designed much more long than width, that makes flanking less possible and OKW faction can have an early game retreat point supported with a strong structure that can be placed behind a wall/house making the faction not getting affected by the long retreat distances. USF/UKF have retreat points but they come mid-late and with a single raid you can destroy them easy. I'm not going to talk about if the medic OKW truck shouldn't be placed outside the base sector, Designing more wider maps will nulify that big advantage. A good example could be the map steel pact from Coh1, it was a fun map with a lot of battle actions due to the short retreat paths.
Spot on ! |
Will top 1vs1 player be able to form a dream 4vs4 team for the 4vs4 tourney?
I would be glade if i were to be proven wrong...
Cheer !!! |