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Just an FYI to everyone here: Molo and incen nade damage is exactly the same.
They both have same DOT aswell as same impact damage.
Difference is throw time, range and cost.
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Personally I think so. I like bulletins making a significant impact on gameplay, tactics and how your opponent responds. It increases the versatility of all armies.
I haven't really seen that many triple bulletins making a real difference (triple armour on Ostheer panther is also quite nice), but I think this feature leads to better competitive play. Players can see in the loading screen which commanders and which bulletins are being used by their opponent and it's up to them to respond accordingly.
The best things about bulletins is that you can't buy them, only earned from RNGesus drops. It's not Play2Win, it's Pray2Win.
Personally, i don't like bulletins making such an impact on gameplay, precisely because of the Pray2Win aspect (i much rather play to win, believe it or not  ).
But of more importance is your statement that players can respond to bulletins such as the one i use.
Quite frankly, you should be able to do that in theory, but in practice (or perhaps in this singular instance) you cannot.
In my 3 years of coh2, i have not faced, seen or have been able to use a strat that effectively shuts down maximspam in the early stages (periods in which the maxim utterly sucked being irrelevant here ofc).
Simply put, knowing that maxims are coming will not help you, but the 10% suppresion most definiatly will.
As such, i do not like maxims suddenly being able to beat pre-set-up mg42's thanks to bulletins (if infact, it were the bulletins doing the work and not the maxim itself).
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what the fuck
Far be it for me to support RE in any way shape or form, i would like to point out how calling russians the communist faction somehow seems to generate more responses then when axis are called nazi's.
That is all, carry on.
Just to add in something I haven't seen mentioned yet - that maxim has (what seems to be) two accuracy bulletins and a rate of fire bulletin, whereas the mg42 has no bulletins.
All the talk about crawling through yellow cover / models outside of green cover aside - this isn't really a fair test, I'd expect the maxim to win with a triple bulletin buff.
Zarok, you do have the increased suppression and rate of fire bulitins for the maxim as well.
Indeed i do, the double 5% suppresion bulletins make for a lovely 10% increase in suppresion (remember the old 10% mg42 suppresion bulletin? thats right it got removed for being OP).
But would you say that's an acceptable reason for a maxim to win vs a pre-set-up mg42 (even without superior cover?)
Im genuinely curious as to the answer for that.
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Generally you post logically and good informed, but in this case, you (aswell as dear necrosomething) forget the fact that the maxim was hit first THEN set-up and THEN pinned the mg42.
Green cover suppresion shenenigins aside, the above is mind boggeling in and off itself.
As such, the example is good to show you just how broken maxims are.
Excellent support weapons. Ok, Maxim sux, mortar is ok, ZiS (look at stats) is worse, than PaK-40 as AT gun. Really excellent support.
sigh.
Indulge my curiosty, what on earth would convince you that the maxim is not bad?
A sign from God? stalin rising from the grave and telling you, you are wrong?
You, playing axis?
after this, im done trying and assume you are aaa no 2.
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This example is bad, can you let it die with dignity?
Pity you "forget" the fact the mg42 shot first from a superior position, but i agree the example is bad.
Next time, ill make sure the mg42 is in a garrison and my maxim is in red cover while looking the wrong way, maybe, just maybe that will be enough for a good example... |
I don't care about "who has bigger ranks", really. Your high rank doesn't show, that USSR is good faction and Maxim is good MG - it only shows, that you can spend enough forces to beat more powerfull faction enemies by weaker faction.
Baseless conclusion and as such, wrong.
Again, when I say that "USSR is bad", I don't mean, that Axis beats USSR in 100%, so bad it is, of course no. It only means, that playing as USSR requiers from you way more micro, attention and another inner resourses to get win, while for Axis it's not such important.
Your point (however wrong) is quite clear to me, so stop repeating it.
And Maxim-spam tactic playing, I think, requiers from you a lot of micro. Way more, than for your enemy, which can rightly put MG-42 somewhere and forget about it. It will automaticly cover by fire large area, providing with large arc of fire to MG-42. Or, dig bunker and forget about it too - same auto-stopping your infantry. Less micro, less headache, less skills.
Complete and utter nonesense.
You telling me that my strat requires more micro to pull off whislt sov is weaker (in your eyes) would mean i have God like micro to get my rank with sov, but somehow fail to do the same with any of the other factions (half of which are easier by your own account).
Not to mention you have no idea whatsoever what micro I need to do, since i am the only one capable of properly assesing that, or that your assesment of axis forces is null and void based on your experience with them (the non-existent kind of experience)
Main problem is - it's not so hard to play as axis, than as USSR. And that means that game is not balanced.
Im telling you, based on my experience and backed up by my ranking that his is utter none-sense.
You have no other way of disagreeing with this than to 1vs1 me and show me otherwise.
You have no evidence, no logic, no reason or argument to keep claiming what you claim.
Yet i am sure nothing can change your flawed perception of this game.
You're as lost as aaa.
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Result - Maxim spam works, but making your tier growing as USSR slower. It just cost a lot and can be counterd by very 1 vechile or tank. So, it's not that effective, as all axis players want to tell.
Look at my playercard.
Look at the sov 1vs1 rank.
Consider my strat as sovjet relies heavily on maxims.
If after this you still think maxims are weak, you 1vs1 me and i'll show you how utterly wrong you are. |
Pinning 1 target is better, ok. But what about mass of targets? About blobs? What MG stop blobs effectively - Maxim, with low AoE supression or MG-42 with AoE, which also works on infantry, that is not underfire at all but only stay near!!!
That's pretty strange to compare support guns by looking at results of their 1v1 fights. Maybe in fight Maxim vs MG-42 Maxim will beat nazi scum, but, is it important for SUPPORT GUN? Support gun should SUPPORT to main forces, not deal damage and be main force itself or something like that. And, as support gun, MG-42 is 10 times better, than Maxim.
You're adorable.
How are your easy okw games going? lost some more? |
Give Zarok some credit, he knows what he is talking about.  soviets
Maxim pinning pre-set-up mg42 in green cover?
Seems balanced to me.
Buff maxim plx. |
The reason is simple: Soviets need more micro, tactical thinking and combined arms. You have to recon and flank your enemy and keep your low health tanks and rocket artillery alive. Thats a lot to do for a player below rank 1000.
A-moving maximspam, the pinnacle of sov micro, tactical thinking and combined arms.
Got me to rank 22 in 1vs1. |
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