Profile of MarcoRossolini

A recommendation I'd make is nerfing into the ground rear armour on all heavies. Flanking just isn't rewarded enough. It's too easy for a flanked Heavy to just turn around and kill flanking tanks. Players should be punished severely for having their tanks flanked.

I'me honestly not expecting anything much to be done either, but I was thinking it would be worth getting some solid statistics on people's opinions on the Soviets currently...

Maybe it will be a wake up call for Relic... (though probably not...)

I really liked the soviet's design on the Eastern Front mod, very versatile, with a lot of options, lots of weak squads early on and strong units late game.

Indeed, and they were just so much more Soviet!

There seems to be a general consensus that Soviets need a faction redesign of some kind.
However, to my knowledge there's been no proper poll done to see how the community at large feels on the issue.
So here it is.


If you agree that the faction needs a redesign, please place your suggestions for it in this thread.

If not, suggest what else could be done, or your reasoning behind not changing them.

I'll say now that I feel that they need a major redesign.
A faction that has most of its effective units locked in doctrines, as well as having less choice of non-doctrinal units that are also inferior to its opponents is, put simply, a terribly designed faction. That the Soviets have been able to achieve some parity in win ratios in only because of some of the exceptionally abusive or cheesy strategies that they can bring out. If these strategies did not exist, then you would see Soviet's winrate drop through the floor. It's a poorly designed faction facing off against consistently superior enemies and it is a faction that must rely on roughly 3 questionable or OP units (maxims, Snipers and the ISU) to win without a massive disparity in skill amongst opponents.

My suggestions?

Allow Soviets to use all their buildings. Rework most of their doctrines to allow them to have proper infantry. Give them good AT weapons. Give them non-doctrinal infantry able to stand up to their non-doctrinal counter parts. Make Soviets more realistic for 1944, which means giving them non-doctrinal T-34-85s and effective Conscripts (or more accurately, Strelkovy) who can upgrade to have weapons such as DP-28s and effective Anti-tank rifles. I don't intend to make the Soviets OP and I would expect heavy nerfs to cheesy units such as Sniper and ISU, because at the end of the day, a more tactical game, which involves combined arms use of effective units, is more fun than sniper spam to ISU combos.

I'm eager to see your alternative suggestions.

Hey! That's a brilliant idea! A Panzer IV ace! Dude, that's really cool, I need to start agitating for Relic to include that. Maybe even put it in instead of the Tiger Ace anyway.