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The better DPS of Carbine actually means that is fires faster (around 18%) since both weapon do the same damage.

Pathfinders also get 2 carbine (with reckon getting one).

Allied squads do not have larger Target size:
conscript_squad_mp Target size: 1.09
volksgrenadier_mp Target size: 1
riflemen_squad_mp Target size: 0.97
grenadiers_mp Target size: 0.91
tommy_squad_mp Target size: 0.85

The critical kill mechanism should be a timed ability for all 3 unit and units with it should not be spammable.

Luckily, these units also compete against Elite units which usually have better Target sizes. Didn't use Obers as they arrive significantly later.

For PG/JLI .8
JCS .91
Falls .83

Using the mid range acc provided, Paths have good chance to hit with sniper crit

PG/JLI .46
JCS .52
Falls .48

However, once light cover is applied their performance drops significantly

PG/JLI .23
JCS .26
Falls .24

So about 1/4 shots to get that sniper crit going, as light cover is abundant at all phases of the game these numbers are the ones that matter most.

Now for the elites JLI compete against

Rangers/Commandos .73 combined both as there is only a .01 difference between the two
Shocks/Guards(Variants)/Paras/Penals .97 They are all between .95-1 so close enough

Midrange acc of .92 vs those target sizes

R/C .67
ST... .89

and applying light cover

R/C .6
ST... .8

So the one G43 outperforms the two Pathfinder snipers even in the worse scenario for the G43 which is going against Rangers/Commandos. Adding the fact that they fire about 20% faster as you stated would mean they are even as a worst case scenario for the G43.

At long range it is even worse as Pathfinders have between a 37-42% chance to hit elite axis units behind light cover. Where as JLI vs R/C have a little better than 75% chance to hit and around/over 100% chance to hit the other stated elites. The allied squads having 1 or 2 more models does not justify this difference in performance which becomes larger as both squads vet(Paths getting 25% acc and JLI getting 40%)

It also should be stated that none of the JLI numbers take into account first strike bonus and numbers are assuming that both units are meeting there threshold for the sniper crit which is easier for JLI.

In the end I do agree, neither should be spammable or at the very least like you said making the sniper crit a timed ability would solve some of the issue.

Have to keep in mind, even at 1 men he's 4 pop, which is 6 manpower upkeep, which means every 4:40 minutes you pay 1 Riflemen model in terms of upkeep, which isn't that much, but should consider if you find it worth it compared to -75% build time.

I used to do this before the USF over 100 pop cap nerf. Before it was totally worth it especially in team games as USF has long build times for tanks. Just bide your time until Sherman blob of death aquired.

Its not like you want to use stock grenadiers, by the time other elites hit the field. Not to mention that its pointless to use them without G43.

On top of that, grenadiers kars don't have exceptionally good close range damage, and the whole DPS of jaegers comes from sniping models.

Point being, if you want to counter jaegers just close the distance which wont allow them to get easy snipes.

They are CP1, they hit earlier than every other elite unit. They get their G43 at the same time fussies get their G43 and I believe VG get their STGs so what are you talking about. Before weapon upgrades they perform about the same as VG up close and better at range due to their superior RA.

Once again if Serelia is to be believed, Gren Kars do about 6 DPS per gun close range while SVT do 5. They only suck close range as others have said due to their small squad size. Their model snipe is significantly better than Paths as not only do they get a significantly higher threshold, they get .9 cover acc and significantly better far accuracy which is the only number that matters. If the shot hits with 75% or less health it is an instant kill. The .5 green cover damage modifier means nothing as it is a sniper crit.

Can you tell me in a real game situation which short range specialist you would use to counter them? They have vision so they can see you coming, have camo and they have sprint. All Soviet SMG squads are bad choices aside from AssG as they are a mixed model squad and retain around 75% of their DPS when dropping models but that locks you into shitty commanders. USF have the same issue, you will bleed on approach. The best counter is commandos as they can move in close without being detected and can leverage small squad weakness to nades.

The Stuka is definetly better, but the Katy is good enough that it is worth using against a single MG or AT as most players aren’t expecting it. I find that it works great at destroying PAK43 as multiple rockets will hit the gun directly

Hold on just a moment. Now you're talking just about the scoped G43 right? That plus the 60% HP crits give me an undersranding of why they pay 60 muni for that sniper XD.

Also, total sidenote but on the topic of OKW and weapon upgrades... Obersoldaten used to spawn in with their LMG34 for 400 manpower. Apparently that was OP so now they have to pay for it. Don't CoH3 Stoßtruppen also spawn with an LMG? If so, place bets on how long that will last for.

G43 model only, and the threshold is 75% I believe. It is at least 70% as that is what I used to check to see if shock armor helped at all against sniper crit. Which it did not.