Profile of rumartinez89

Saw his name, was expecting some toxic shit, actually played fairly team friendly and no trash talk. WE started dominating around mid game, made a KV8 which didnt due much until the end was more for intimidation.

I felt I did fairly well on the forrest side with Penals/AssGuards. Was proud of Ober wipe using assault nades over sight blocker.

Didn't play for a week, decided to play and these assholes decided to make it go down to the 30s for both teams.

Highlights:
Dove to kill enemy Ostwind, got it somehow made it out alive
AT Overwatch for KT kill, later on for Double panthers
Allied AVRE came in clutch a few times
OKW made good use of OPEL plus blob got several kills off on us

Lowlights:
Couple rams into AT overwatch came up empty
We got the shit flanked out of us multiple times
KT literally wiped several of my Penal squads in 1 or two shots, like a dummy I kept trying to hold on instead of respecting

Soviets play fine in 1v1, it's larger gamemodes where guards are necessary to make a difference with infantry. Otherwise Soviets have to rely on their tanks or bleed themselves dry with penals for only a mediocre performance against axis elites. Make no mistake, conscripts are very useful in 4v4, but in the late game there are slim few situations where they can attack and be useful. They are mostly only good for snaring, defense, and merge by the end of a match.

I agree with most if not all of what your saying but your statement seems to be geared around pure infantry level fights. Having a mainline unit that gets a MP/survivability/XP/cool down buff provides a much better return on late game units. Cons can build their own green cover and spot using trip flares which once triggered is uncounterable like other flares. This snyergizes great with arty and most late game call ins as some vision is required. With how cheap Soviet units are you can quickly change from defense to offense and not lose to much momentum if you use Cons vs Penals/Elites.

Point blank mechanism does not apply to garrisoned troops.

If attacking unit move to cover close to garrison they will still fire vs garrison while garrison will fire with point blank negating cover.

Garrison also gets reload bonus right?

I have not claimed that you agreed with my points.

I do not know what you are trying to prove with this test you are making or how it is related to overwatch commander.

I rather obvious that if one is facing JLI one should avoid a static fight at long range behind cover with most unit.


You are dead wrong about this.

This was clearly proven when Relic in their infinite wisdom moved Shock troops and Guards to CP1 and the Soviet become completely broken.

The same actually applied to both JLI and Pathfinder since the started becoming an issue when their CP was requirement where reduced (JLI from 2 to 1) (Pathfinder from 1 to 0)

As JLI are part of overwatch commander, the total strength of the commander is decided by the abilities and units that are unlocked once it is chosen. The combat performance vs other units decide how the opponent will respond. Once again, picking a short range focused squad is overall win for OKW as most maps are long range focused along with LMG Obers arriving later to completely negate any push as JLI also have vision and other utility.

Why is this obvious? Why should a more expensive and later arriving unit with a LONG RANGE focus lose? Airborne Guards are an AI focused ELITE unit with no utility outside of combat, why should this unit lose to a cheaper scout unit? Which unit should win long range against JLI behind light cover?

So what am I wrong about? Unit performance is tied to unit timing, and as I have said several times JLI arrive to early for a unit that can fight mainlines and scale to fight elites. I think I was unclear in my wording when responding to your comment about Pathfinder timing. What I meant to say is it takes about 2.5 mins to 3.5 mins to reach CP1. That means JLI do not arrive much later than Paths, with a dedicated build it is easy to spam JLI. CP2 usually arrives late 5 to early 7 min window(same time gap), so JLI have plenty of time to start vetting before they have to compete with Allied elites.

Yes it was broken when shocks arrived that early, but CP cost wasn't the only issue. If I remember correctly at that time Shocks could still throw smoke and HE with separate cooldowns and Guard LMG had Gren LMG performance.

Instead of nerfing JLI so they would be less spammable, a significantly longer cooldown was given. So performance was known to be an issue but it was never meaningfully address.