Im a German player only, and I dont think SU85 is OP or broken.
Any decent player can safely deal with this tank using ATguns, Shrecks, Pfausts, P4s and so on...
The thing is slow....can be flanked...and does jackshit to infantry.
ATguns demolish it....Shrecked Pgrens also.
I personnally love to circle strafe it with a P4....grab a doctrine with Tank smoke...bring a single Gren squad..PanzerFaust it...and just run around it.
The only thing an SU85 requires to be beaten...is smart play.
Get smart.
It is slow? Really? In reverse it outruns everything but a panther. And a panther is only
a smidgen faster so if the su 85 backs up before panther gets too close it can prevent being flanked. It is not slow. So now you know that, Do you change your mind about it. Or will you make up other things to justify it.
At guns demolish it? Really?
Are you talking about pak 40s? Really?
If pak40s didn't suck so hard, I dont think su85s would be such a pita. But since pak40 is almost useless as anti tank, taking on su 85 requires....
Su 85 owner to be brainless
Su 85 owner goes so deep into enemy territory that no reverse turbo boosters can save it
A drive around the map with a panther so you maybe can sneak up behind it without it turbo reverse sniping.
A drive around the map with 2 p4s so you maybe can sneak up behind it without it turbo reverse sniping.
A pak40 and su85 users child jumping into their lap keeping them from turbo reversing while pak 40 misses or fails to penetrate most of the 10-15 shots it will take trying to kill an su 85.\
A PAK43 and a non attentive su 85 user who strays in the limited range of the immobile cannon and stays there.
a non attentive Su 85 user who stands there while tank is hit with panzerschrecks, instead of just turbo reversing.
Flanking one is hard
flanking 2 is a monumental task.