So you equate acceptable or even good at capability with almost none at all? Again do you not realize it's 170 pen and 240 damage along with 325 armor?
I agree that it is great and all, but i'd rather have some infantry and SU-85(s) for 240 fuel and 720 MP |
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Whenever you tell me to combine it with AT guns or SU85s it just makes it seem like an overpriced KV-8 |
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I don't need to pay 240 fuel for something that can one shot infantry but gets killed by most tanks. I have infantry for killing infantry.
Some people make arguments that the Panther has no AI, but what soviet infantry unit can actually do more than damage the engine?
So, the IS-2 costs 240 fuel, and for that 240 fuel I can lose to one of the most common types of tanks in the lategame, BUT I can destroy a couple squads of infantry and not get my engine damaged as a trade-off..
Seems fair. Yep.
Yeah i'll just get a KV-8 for more than half the price..
They are even in the same doctrine!
Yeah, but really, I would always much rather get a Panther. They can scare infantry away well, and their MG turret does decent AI.
But with the Panther, I can also 1v1 any soviet tank and win. ISU-152, IS-2, SU-85..
I can 1v1 all that shit and win, and in the case that there are support and massed AT weapons waiting for my Panther? Well I'll just use my amazing mobility to get out. I can even use rocket blitzkrieg mode with a damaged engine! So balanced! |
soviets have molotovs and a good soviet will keep germans out of buildings in t1 and rush cutoffs. bad t1 gameplay
Replay of you putting a molotov in a building on city 17, and the MG actually not surviving. |
Panther can handle JS-2 and T-34/85s, the 130 fuel cost for me is a buff, the 600MP is some kinda high, but consider which soviet tank is cost-effective near a panther since alpha test?
600MP should be reduced to 520, and fuel rise to 140 IMO......Generally, panther need a slightly AI buff, dev just copy and paste panther's role from vCOH, I'd like to see some change
I'm going to have to agree with this post
IS-2s and T-34/85s just need to not be terrible
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I have to slightly agree with the OP. Whenever i'm playing Axis and I see a Maxim for instance, i want to pick it up but I have 3 panzergrens!
Though it does kinda make up for the German's extremely versatile tiers. |
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Seriously, i'm tired of all these fucking SU-85s. "Support it with an SU-85" "SU-85 kills all axis armor" This is why I want Soviet tanks to be useful, because the only thing capable of doing shit to tanks is the SU-85 right now. |
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What is your guys opinion on the new IS-2? IMO, I really don't like it. It is just too vulnerable to everything to be a good tank. I really want to like it, but it just can not take that much damage. Also, the turret traverse is slow as fuck and i'm still losing it to Panthers and such.
I want a good Soviet flanking tank for heavy tank battles, but the T-34/76 can't do anything to a Panther or Tiger, even though a Panther costs 130 now.. |
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Yeah, but the thing is, you aren't going to be hitting tanks unless you get Vet 1. and to get vet 1 you kind of need to kill some infantry. |
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So apparently, Soviets had better artillery in the war. Not reflected in this game.
The 152mm fires slow and makes large explosions, but the LefH has a tiny bit less range, appears to have the same AoE, and fires MUCH faster. Not to mention that the LefH recharges substantially faster.
I noticed when I started liking 152mm, and then I tried to use a LefH and wow..
and doesn't 152mm cost more? |
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