Profile of Doomlord52

Looks good (especially bundle change). But we're still missing a change the the most worthless unit in the entire game: OKW Flak.

Both the OKW Flak and Ost Pak 43 should really have their crews made invulnerable like the brit versions.

So a rifles 28 MP reinforce cost per model is that much better then right?

Yes.

Rifles are a larger squad (5 vs 4), cost less to reinforce (28 vs 30), use the same pop (7 each), have two default upgrade slots (vs 1), have a larger variety of upgrades available (AT, Close AI, Far AI), have access to smoke grenades, have FAR better vet, and can be healed and reinforced in the field via a mobile vehicle (Grens can only reinforce while mobile). That's just stats/abilities.

Then there's the inherent effectiveness drop rates:
1 Gren mode = 25%
1 Rifle model = 20%
That means that after losing 3 models, the gren squad is down to 25%hp/dps (and needs to retreat), while the rifles are at 40% (and cost 6 less MP to reinforce).

Then there's the inherent problem of smaller squads getting insta-wiped by explosives (rifles have 20% extra models).

If you do the math it's actually more expensive to fully reinforce a rifle squad then a gren squad

Yes, to go from 1 rifle model to 5 costs 112 vs. going from 1 gren to 4 costs 90. But rifles have an extra model. At the same model cost, it would be 112 vs 120.

but you're saying it's fine to MP drain US.....that doesn't make OST insanely overpowered?

Yes, because USF isn't an inherently MP starved faction. Unlike grens, rifles are a mainline infantry that lasts the ENTIRE game. Try fighting vet 3 grens vs. vet 3 rifles; it's no contest - especially with upgraded weapons. Grens work well in early game, but you need to diversify; you'll want PGrens for AT roles, you might want assault grens for AI... But USF? Just keep building rifles. That vet helps those units all game, and they only get better as time goes on.

Have you played US? Do you not know how you spend ALL your MP on reinforcing just 3 squads of rifles from sniper fire? US is HIGHLY underpowered with no late game whatsoever.

Yes, you just need to rifle blob. Works at almost every skill level. If you get matched against someone good, just rifle spam and micro. That 1 sniper might be annoying, but you'll be doing insane amounts of damage against Ost's infantry at every single engagement.

Main reason? MP drain against OST would be insane. Grens are 4-man, 30mp per model squads, whereas USF squads are both bigger and less expensive; combined with rifles being better (and cheaper) than grens, giving them the ability to MP drain OST that hard would make USF insanely overpowered.

Idea of "increasing Ost squads survivability" is good, surely. But... if that will be done, I think, we will also need to get weapon upgrades for Conscripts, like DP-28s or SVTs or something like that.

While I agree, the upgrade would need to be as late-game as the Ost gren upgrade, and would need to only just increase the squad firepower to match the HP increase on the grens. Since in theory we'd be seeing an 80hp increase (so, 25%), and that 25% HP would need to be split across the 6 cons DPS pool... we're looking at something like 4.2% DPS increase per model. Not really sure if that's upgrade worthy.

P.S. Since we talk about squad increasing - I don't understand why 4 men tommy squad costs 280 MP, but 5 men suqad costs... 280 MP?

My guess is it's because there's no system in place to handle a change in squad cost at production level.

None of these suggestions (in OP) really work, since the MPit will become completely useless. The point is to make it less "set and forget", and more skill oriented.

My suggestion from a "patch wish-list" thread:

Brit Mortar Emplacement
Auto-fire attack damage bug fixed (iirc 2nd mortar does far less damage than 1st)
Auto-fire range reduced to match normal mortars; barrage keeps current range. This reduces the ability to "set and forget" this unit, and stops it from auto-attacking everything on smaller maps.

You could even reduce it's auto-fire to less than normal mortars, since it has the brace/HP advantage; and you could still manually barrage further...