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there was a reason why Pathfinder from CP1 to CP0. Now you bring them back to that state and call it balance ?.
Adjust Path into JLI clone will lead to:
- Will you buff Path in 1CP since their scope rifle has lower crit than LJI and a squad itself got worse stat and vet compere to JLI ?
- Will you balance the cost of Path due to high cost to maintance 2-3 Rifleman, RE and Officer ?.
- Will you give Path more ability to fullil 1CP unit ?

lol, then remove the upgrade but put them back at 1 cp or live we current meta

Alright time for a better answer, because this thread bugs me to shit.

• OP is right in the aspect that late game allies have way way more advantages than late game axis IN 4v4. Jacksons coupled with Soviet seeplanes and the arty/ATGs Zises are killer to any Axis armor (with the decent exception of Jagdtiger/Ele). HOWEVER, Axis should (and do) win before game changing quantities of allied TDs roll out (ie. the phase where the first Panther hits should tie the knot to the game).
  know the game with panther which is useless vs infantry, will be hard
  
  
• OP is wrong about the aspect of Axis blob management in ANY mode. T0 MG42 with 45Vision Pios can hold anything against even a 5 unit blob (with proper MG42 micro which, given by you claiming you play against top100s, is a logical conclusion). Not to mention the stupidly fast Mortar that OST can pump (not as fast as USA but the difference gets more than made up in the MG42's combat performance).
  1 SMOKE = mg is useless, then u get overrun and ur 2nd mg behind it also by flanking
  
  
• OP is wrong about the combat effectiveness of the forward heal truck of USA. Yes, it's a nice little gimmick but way way out of game breaking. First off, it's a soft retreat, meaning the US player must properly micro fragile <2men squads to bring them back and heal them. This kind of micro is impossible in 99.5% of players to be quite realistic. Secondly, it's a fucking LV that gets disabled by a single snare, neverminding the fact that a single mortar team can rape the fuck out of retreating squads in its range.
  oh man, thats not so hard with 5-6 units at front to micro some back.....
  
  
• I immediately disregard any serious talk of "blobbing" problems in COH2, as the foremost indicator of a poor gameplay performance. If you get raped by spammers don't forget you are also spamming a mistake they consistently take advantage of. If you get outplayed by 3 paths which are a nonsnare/nongren unit, maybe it's time to really think how combat effective going toe to toe with them with grens is (HINT: it's not, build 222s idiot). To add to my point, Axis have by and large the best tools to demolish blobs, starting with very good MGs and going all the way to Stuka's magnificent straight path bombing, Brumbars, and Sturmtigers. Another hint: OST have instapin skill planes which demobilise a blob. Maybe use them?
  planes = no ele or jagd; brumbar is good but tahts lategame; u wont get outplayed by 3 paths, read again maybe
  
  
• OP is right at what I perceive to be the boring flow of a COH2 team game, where 80% of the action happens for fuel, then for stars. It's ridiculous and breaks the flow of the WW2 military style, which above all was a war of army maneuvering and not really a bunker down and throw shells conflict. Hopefully COH3's manpower points will fix this, seeing that if you take the fuel and spam your army there, I will take your manpower to starve you. Decent solution.
  hoepfully would be awesome
  
  
• In the current state of COH2 matchmaking, coordinated arranged teams beat everything, even with shitty tactics. Sad, but true. Maybe you have had a streak of bad matchmaking where 4 allies gang up against a disorganized 4 Axis, but in reality every 4v4 I have ever played (minus decent exceptions) is plagued both sides by idiotic players, uncoordinated movement and hardcopin spam.
  true, i dont even mention that crap
  
  
  

what u talking about is only working with a arranged team by axies. then yes of course u wont get smashed the 15min because u can combine arms but im talking about random 4v4 where the favor is 90% on the allied side to succed without big brains and that is something this games makes unplayable for long time if u love to play on axies side.

Axis are OP in 4v4 currently according to Coh2Stats.com.

As I have said in another post Soviets are weak in 4v4 because they are so slow to get to the front line. This is compounded by more people only owning Soviets. So the lower down the ELO ladder the more soviet mates you have on your team.

Recently I had another revelation for allies in team games. Every game I play at low-mid ranks the allied players do well until their first tank comes out. The rest of the match their infantry sits idle.

Many lower skill players can only micro one thing at a time. Since axis tanks are much stronger than allied tanks, these same skill level players perform better than their allied opponents. Once they smash the allied tank they have free reign to smash the rest of that players army that is sitting idle.

Add to this the comment by Aerafield that allied teching is not as straight forward/easy for noobs.

The real issue is at higher ELOs. You start to see less 3 and 4 soviets in a match. And a mix of allies can be very strong and hard to deal with at higher ELOs.

So the current state of balance is good for low rank axis players but slightly bad for high rank axis players.

2-3 soviets in 4v4 is maybe 1 of 20. Nearly every game is 2 US 1 brit 1 sov. But u bring it on point, for skilled allied players it is easy to manage the blob + tanks, thanks to the combined mix they can easily dominate the early game and keep axies away from fuel to tec up.

As axies player u can only survive first 5 min without noobs in team. 1 noobs is enough to loose 1 fuel. On allied team this is not then problem at all.

Playing vs top 50 allied players is like this:
1 mistake at start, wrong commander or unit build order first minutes and game lost. A comeback vs US nearly impossible with mgs, blob + med truck after fuel lost. Also playing 2 okw on same side the biggest problem, every good allied player know how to rek you.

Hardest allied combo at start for 1 fuel:
US + sov: pathfinders, med, mortars, maxims, sov.mortar, forward supply truck, mg bunkers

US + brit: path, med, mortars, snipers, mgs, bren + with gun, brit mortar

This and an agressiv playstyle is enough to rek 80% axies on 4v4. Holding only possible without mistakes. If he gets blobs behind u on ur retreating path ur double rekt.

U know whats left for axies ? A little part i the mid game, when they manage to get fast a wirbel out. Thats the time they can dominate for like 1-2 min the game lmao. When it comes to late game, by far ther is ko superior in german tanks in this game. Only jagd left good rest gets sniped out of range by every skilled allied player

after 2 years started to play again to see how the things going. the game was cool, i mostly played 3v3 / 4v4 even managed to get under top 10 on 4v4 and 3v3 but now it seems to get one sided.

it seems whatever stopped the allied blob is patched to death on axies side lmao. i see the crying threads here, sturmtiger the lol unit is also nerfed. wtf ? hahaah i guess blobber cried so long until they did something. and now i see british avre with commets spamm. that crap is way better then sturmtiger ever was.

4v4 gamestyle is every game the same. most allied teams have 2 us players which leads to massiv blobs with pathfinders, mortars and forward med trucks. the forward med truck is such an advantage in the first 10min that allied team can keep all blobs near fuels. they smoke ost mgs and can easily flank everything. after the flaktruck arrives i wish u good luck with ur at gun to kill it, whole blob is focus on ur 1 at gun
and actually i see more and more mgs on allied side which make the whole situation even harder to counter.
the best games are by far without us players in enemy team, but as it is very easy to play 4v4 for them u get 1 of 10 games maybe like that.

the people here saying "playing axies is way more easy in 3v3/4v4" are retarded. playing allied first 15min is the most easiest win u can imagine in 4v4. if u cant get total dominance with ur blob ur a noob

as axies, especially okw u have a hard life without fuel for stukkas to kill the blob. now when u go to tec for leigs the blob will overun ur ass. when it comes to late and u dont go for jagd have fun to counter jackson superior range with ur anti inf tanks.

so is the intention in this game now to give allies fuel control and try to beat them away and wait for late game for heavy axies tanks ? wow thats so amazing gameplay here.

this game will be never balanced because it is impossible to balance factions for 1v1 and 4v4 equal, even vanila coh was more balanced and way more fun to play

The points u mention are the design problem from coh2 and could be easily solved:

- give every faction forward hq's to retreat like a field camp

- bigger maps with more open areas and not so much stuff which block u from flanking

- current range design leads to the playstyle like mentioned. Why not make it more accurate and change it to more realistic ? Give the soviets and u.s. cheaper tanks but tiger should have nit such a poor range like now. This would maybe solve blobbing with inf as allies could have more fun to go for tanks.

- option for more zoom would give much better feeling for bigger maps

- flat big maps like airfield from spearhead are a good example for nice big map design with areas that gives tanks and infantry advantage but not possible to block with 1 mg a whole path.

Something cool would be like an option or modus u could play were u are able to choose first 3-4 units from start and can bring them with trucks to the area on the map. Many interesting things i mention are part of the coh2 mods which i feel are great and bring fresh gamestyle.