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Thread: Im not saying Germans are OP, but....13 Jul 2015, 12:54 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 08:33 AMCorsin I always compare this argument to Starwars The Old republic (mmo) The classes/abilities are mirrored, totally the same, just different faction and animations... Shock horror 70% of the population play Sith > Jedi. People like the bad guys with the cool stuff. Just how people work. If it was done off balance... well allies win the majority of high end tournament games... just saying. That argument has at least two logical flaws: - The first simple one is that the Sith aren't nearly as bad as the Nazis were. Aside from Annikin's killing of the kids we don't actually know of anything particularly bad that they do. (As opposed to industrial death camps, mass slave labor, and the subjugation of entire countries and all that which the Nazis did.) - the second is that you don't know that playing-the-side-that-easily-wins isn't the issue becaue we KNOW that the balance in 4v4 randoms is totally f--ked. MOST IMPORTANTLY: This is not good for the game. It means that people who come to COH2 to play Allies are discouraged from staying while those who come to play Axis or don't care are encouraged to play only axis. How is that good? Last week there are almost 3 x player-games (games x players) playing 3v3 and 4v4 (33100) than playing 1v1 and 2v2 (12866) and that is despite the pain allied players experience and the waits axis players must endure. The least played format, 3v3, had 60% of the 1v1 and 2v2 total compbined. Considering how much of the matchmaking problems come from the low player base, how does driving away ANY players help the game? Fix 4v4 some and more will stay. Do it well and you will also make for a better 3v3 and probably 2v2 experience. I would bet 1v1s could stay the same, maybe even improve because if you fix the things that allow an OKW to abuse in 4v4 you can probably give it more tools to use in 1v1. No doubt there will will be Axis fanbois tears. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The noob factor10 Jul 2015, 19:02 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2015, 17:14 PMArray ...Also being slow out the gate at the start of games (a symptom of inexperienced players) favours ost. Not sure at this stage in the games life there's much to be done about this although potential upcoming changes to the old factions might help allied ease of play very slightly Slowing down the game progression (I have argued in other threads it just seems to progress through to ALte game much faster than COH1 did) might help some. At least it gives them a few more minutes of what will feel like real gameplay in each match and they might learn a trick or two in those minutes to carry them to the next game. I still remember the first time I remembered to lay mines in COH1. It was the first real step. Too many of us forget the steps we went through and how hard they were. For me it is easy to remember since I am an old fart and am still learning things others take for granted. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: The noob factor10 Jul 2015, 18:55 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2015, 05:46 AMJohnnyB Seems to me you and your friends are not playing Axis like at all. Seems to me your friends could not win a few games and ragequited. If I had this attitude when I started playin Axis at the beginning I would have quit long time ago. Coh is not for the people who have no patience at all in improving. The opponents your friends met, played most probably just with axis and started not for long time to play with allies too. Every new faction you try, will prove hard at the beginning. Don't tell me: you started to play COH2, you played allies and only got beaten, you play axis and you win every time. It sounds like you play just allies and rage because you can't win with them every time. Seems to me you don't know the first thing about products and consumers. A consumers SUBJECTIVE opinion counts more than any objective opinion or reality. The rule in consumer goods (and I am in two of those businesses) is that for every time someone complains there are legions of people who didn't complain... they just walked away and told others the product was garbage without tell YOU. Here we have a persons opion. OP has posted all of 2 times which means he is not one of the legions of COH fanbois (Allied or Axis). What he says is a complaint. To say that the complaint is invalid is the absolute first wrong answer in customer service. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Balance Data Since The Patch10 Jul 2015, 15:00 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2015, 14:44 PMKurtWilde Comparing soccer with coh2 is pushing it a bit too much, nein? I think we have a low player base is coz the larger team games are not that enjoyable. Although most people play them. And that's where the money is. Also a lot of people play video games for fun. I play quite a bit of LoL, a whole lot more than coh2, and its despite the fact that I know I will never play in south korea in a huge arena for 2.3 mil You play COH2 to have fun?! You want balanced large team games just because that is where most of the player hours (and those huge disparities in player hours are despite the lack of balance)?! This is a game I tell you! It is produced by a company that needs to show a profit! Clearly that means that only 1v1 balance at the very top of skill should be the only focus! /sarcasm Games are popular in esports because a lot of people play them and so to a degree understand them. Playerbase creates the interest in esports, not vice versa. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Current European Situation Discussion10 Jul 2015, 14:01 PM There is an joke that goes back to the 20'3 and 30's (and probably before). Two Jewish old men sit on a park bench reading their respective newspapers, Moshe is reading a Yiddish paper catering to the European Jews in the neighborhood, and David reads a paper with a decidedly anti-semitic slant. Moshe: "David! Why do you read such garbage? Those people hate us and wish us nothing but the worst!" David: "Moshe, your paper tells about the hatred we face around the world. it talks of how this administration or that is changing their policies so the Jews must suffer or leave." "This paper talks about how we control the media, the US, the banks. How rich we all are and how all the powers in the world are our puppets." "Moshe, I read this paper because it is filled with good news!" In: Scrap Yard
Thread: Current European Situation Discussion10 Jul 2015, 13:55 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2015, 11:36 AMsomenbjorn I have found my new favorit crazy person on this site. I love it. Edit: Seriously dude save yourself the embaressment and simply google "What ever conspiracy theory you have" + debunking. It often takes people 15 minutes to debunk all those crazy theories. The Zionist media moguls created all those debunking sites you know! As one of the most ardent Zionists on this site I should know. In: Scrap Yard
Thread: Balance Data Since The Patch10 Jul 2015, 13:42 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2015, 13:27 PMTatatala That's a rather elegant and simple solution. It would add a tiny amount of balance in team games overall, but a tiny amount is still an amount, and better than nothing. Not enough "tiny" things are tried. Which is actually wrong. Tiny things should be tried because if they are tiny they won't matter. But perhaps they will? Perhaps they aren't tiny? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Balance Data Since The Patch10 Jul 2015, 13:08 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2015, 12:26 PMAlexzandvar 1v1 and 2v2 are the current standard for tournaments and competition for a reason; because they are both popular modes that don't suffer from (as many) horrible balance issues. Like what is the argument here? I don't think anyone disagrees 3v3 and 4v4 are nuts. I made this hypothesy years ago and I will make it again. It isn't that 1v1 mode is so balanced it is that the imbalances are magnified as the game modes get larger. Many like to ignore the 4v4 balance because esports! But what no one really tried is to bring some balance to 4v4 and see if that doesn't bring more balance to 1v1. I think one of those steps is to slow the game progression. It feels about 1/3 faster (or more?) than COH1. But the VP counters haven't changed and the late game imbalances are worse. Controlling the amount of resources in 3v3 and 4v4 is also important. One way to control that with OKW would be to give them 100% fuel/muni income but adjust the prices upwards by the same amount. That means no effect on costs or timing but now they don't benefit as dramatically from fuel bonus activities (and this would have literally 0 effect on 1v1 balance). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Current European Situation Discussion8 Jul 2015, 20:27 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2015, 19:03 PMafrrs Yep . People just really need to filter the information they get . Plenty of institutions will be happy to do that for you. In: Scrap Yard
Thread: Balance Data Since The Patch8 Jul 2015, 20:21 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2015, 20:13 PMNorthWeapon Just a few words to say: Future COH2 esports tournaments will be 100% balanced for the following reason: - Both teams will be able to play both Axis & Allies - Both teams will play on the same maps - Both teams will have access to the same commanders & factions and if you wanna go further - Both teams will have the same bulletins Problem solved. Think CS:GO. Terrorists & Counter-Terrorists asymmetrically balanced but because you get to play both of them, it's balanced at the end. Esport balance doesn't matter without a playerbase. In: COH2 Balance