Profile of PaRaNo1a

lets hope this was their way of doing a larger scale beta since very few were testing the beta patch.

if they quickly update this now that several hundred have tried, we're all better for it.

One can dream : )

If not, they go down in history as the people who sabotaged their best game.

What can you do? I work for a big company and I can tell you, most of the time the people doing the work know what they're doing and want to do well, but it's the leaders who have no clue. I've seen those guys streaming and what not and I know they want to do well. Lets just hope they pull it together.

As you said, it doesn`t entirely depends on them as there are higher ups who decide.
But in fact as a coder no matter how many times you try to fix 1 issue there will always be another issue, this is inevitable. I know that because I work in a software development company and I see this every day. It doesn`t mean they are bad at what they do, it means that the code is so fcking huge that you will obviously mess something up somewhere without even realizing it.

No matter if players/end users hate the company they are still coming back and use the product just because there is nothing better for them at the moment.

P.S: Relic knows that and that is why they don`t care about the shit thrown at them.
Cause the game is old and doesn`t provide a big revenue to the company any more, but they still work on it slowly slowly because there is a playerbase. They are not focused on it 100% so I don`t get why people complain about it. You bought the game at least 6 years ago, didn`t you get your moneys worth up to now? If you did then don`t complain and enjoy the fact that the game is still out there allowing you to play it. Btw wehram this comment is not directed to you, I hope you realize this.

ah, I wasn't aware my posts are "obviously" boring and repetitive. You're right, how can I be offended by a fact like that. cough*douche*cough

Also I strongly recommend you read posts before you reply to them. If you think they're boring and repetitive don't reply to them. Replying to posts you haven't fully read makes no sense.

Apparently it makes people mad and cause drama....
No idea why though, It`s not like I offended you in my initial comment as far as I remember

First of all, be more polite. <-> your long posts are boring and repetitive

Are you sure you're not the reincarnation of Nullist? Also, please don't reply to my posts if you didn't even bother reading them thoroughly, thank you very much

your long posts are boring and repetitive <- Is not an insult but a "stating the obvious" comment.
In a matter of fact I agree with you now that I have read your post. And I am surprised that people can`t distinguish input lag and pathing/unit behavior around cover and such.
You don`t need to have coding knowledge to realize those two things are 2 different matters. <------This is a general comment for all, not for you, so don`t get insulted

Not everyone want play consript spam. For me consrpts dont scale well. No weapon upgrade and weak armor. Grens with G43 rape them as no tomorow. In team games i use them only for merge and pick up OH superior support weapons. Penals was very good, but now the same.
Shock troops are very viable now versus pay2win OH commander and his insta vet.

Thing is not every ostheer player uses the OP commanders
And why would a doctrinal unit such as Shocks be coming that soon out?
2.5 armor on them is just way to much to deal with in the first 5 mins lol.
If they come later you can say the ostheer is prepared for them or has resources to adjust to it ( if he is not a complete retard).
I don`t say cons spamm is good, by no means no.... its boring as hell.
And you still can deal with early shocks, point is you will loose the whole map control before you can even bring something out that is a hard counter to them.
MGs are a soft counter not a hard counter.

Im pretty convinced the sluggish way infantry responds to commands has nothing to do with lag coming from a P2P connection. Hell, even a 300ms connection would be ok for a RTS, whereas that would be horrible for shooters like Counterstrike.

The problem lies within the gamedesign, as you said Inverse: "Animations are different, so you don't have some squad members waiting until after an animation completes to follow the next command."

This sluggishness is seen all throughout CoH2, not just for infantry movement commands. For instance, I sometimes lose a squad to a satchel even though I retreated right when he threw the thing at me. Why? Cause my infantry waits around a few seconds with the retreatarrow over their heads instead of actually going to base right away after you ordered the retreat (and like they do in CoH1).
Also I notice my infantry sometimes stopping halfway during a retreat to hide in cover for a few seconds. I really don't see why it's so difficult for Relic to have infantry on retreat just head back straight to base tbh.
The sluggishness can also be seen when microing tanks in a small area. It is just so much more "unresponsive" than coh1 was: both the pathing itself, and the unit response to your commands.

We seem to have forgotten by now but the unitresponse used to be WAY worse: remember fighting Guard Rifles with your Pgrens only to have them crawl on the floor whenever a PTRS rifle got fired? That REALLY made me feel lack of control.

So yeah, I kinda feel that in order so solve the input lag Relic has to look at their gamedesign, not networkcoding.

300ms are good enough for and RTS? Sure keep believing that. You can already notice a difference at 150ms. Also you are mixing pathing issues with input lag issues.