Profile of Imperial Dane

Unless the factions are created so asymmetrically that skills from one faction won't necessarily translate to another(i.e. comparing terran and zerg), you honestly need to play more than one faction at a relatively high level to understand the inner workings of the faction. However, the ability to focus primarily on just one faction means that even though you can play the other factions at a high level, you'll be able to play your main faction at the highest level. Which, in turn, elevates the level of play overall.
For that reason, specialists are often not quite on level with a somewhat-less-of-a-specialist, at least from what I've experienced.

And forcing a player to master two armies won't elevate the level of player overall by giving him a deeper insight into not just one both both armies ? By allowing mirror matches you do create a much more narrow player. And also one who might be a bit more limited when it comes to providing feedback for balance since they will only consider one side of the argument.

Again, it's a design issue more than anything else. TvT is/was one of the deepest match-ups in SC2, providing each player with a massive variety of options and styles. Terran was, by far, the best designed faction of that game, though. Contrast that with protoss mirrors, and then consider how well protoss were designed compared to terran.

Obviously it's still going to be harder to design around mirror matches, but if that's something Relic has had in mind all along, it could still work out if they're wary of what they're doing. And according from what I've heard from people that tried the alpha, they didn't experience any problems with the mirrors contra asymmetrical matches. Thus, I'm optimistic, though still open to removing mirrors if they turn out to be crap/too much work.

So me pointing out that they were bloody boring doesn't count for anything ? And wouldn't it rather be the point to balance the game and design it around the asymmetrical gameplay. That is the more dynamic of the gameplay modes. And rather what fits in more with the first CoH.

And you do risk that things which do not work in mirror matches but work well in asymetrical matchups could result in things getting removed. Simply for the sake of the mirror match.

I'd like for you to actually fully explain in detail how any of those things take the individuality out of the game.

I mean from what i can see theyøre just some random things and then you go "well would you look at that, that justifies mirror matches"

I mean i don't really see how Volksgrenadiers stand out less from the Americans, i don't see how the Puma upgun in any way achieves the same. So i think you're going to have to explain that one in more detail,

And German divisions did not fight German divisions, nor did russian divisions fight russian divisions. Their were russian troops and german troops fighting for the others, certainly. But under different organisation and sometimes with different equipment. Never mind that the Russian ones were quite relegated to rear area duties or were sent to Normandy to guard the beaches.

So not really an argument for realism there to be honest.

And i am not going to support mirrors in the beta. I tried it in the alpha. It was worse than playing vs the brits. Absolutely boring. I ended up just leaving the matches and hope that i actually got a proper match-up.

@Naeras: Then what about the mirror match mod ? The one which never saw popularity. I mean that one rather counters the whole it can't be done. So my argument stands. If there had been some greater desire for mirror matches, then it would have found an outlet in the modding community. Just like the ones who wanted the eastern front did, or north africa, or a game without base building, or something more contemporary in terms of combat.. Yet it never did.

All i can say is thank god Sniper spam isnt viable in CoH2.

Amen brother. Amen.

They'll be using steam for that. And according to some files, they might have had hired a team to actually map CoH to steam.. Which could mean CoH using steam servers in the long run.

We all would be We'll see how it goes though. Hoping for the best obviously.