So just so we're clear: CE have stats on par with mainline infantry, excellent utility, cost, and are in the best mine army in the game.
Unfortunately they don't shoot while retreating thus they are an UP worker unit in need of a buff.
Did I get that right? |
Obviously, that’s the best way to delete 4man squads with no defensive bonuses that keep overextending. You were constantly setting yourself up for wipes.
I played off-faction in a match-up I'm unfamiliar with.
You knew what you were playing against ahead of time, gamed the matchup as hard as you could, and are to afraid to rematch lol. |
Thumbs up for the really masculine way to settle differences - on the battlefield! Do you throw gloves beforehand?
Nah. To prove his point that CE aren't effective after losing 90% of the map is to game the matchup by retreat path blobbing around his minesweeper. |
Yeah I’m the bully. Not like you’re the one who asked for a fight or anything...
And the maxim is trash, you’re delusional if you think it would have saved you.
Well lets go. |
Here's me, rank 600 something soviet losing to *!*!Rank 87 *!*! stormjaeger.
https://www.coh2.org/replay/104654/fourms-arguement-2
Apparently blobs counter CE spam, but not conscripts, and so we don't need a rematch where I'm building mgs. |
dumb fourms agruement |
I’m 72 and you’re dreaming if you think CE spam is anything but a meme. Rank 600 is nonexistent tier, people don’t know what they’re doing there and you can blob your way to victory. This strat only works in higher tier if you’re better than your opponent. For instance if Luvnest goes CE spam vs me then he’ll win because he’s light years ahead as a player, but if he tries that vs Noggano he’ll absolutely lose. It’s a bad strat since you’re relying on Infantry that’s 4man, no merge, no combat veterancy and no snare to protect your vehicles from a Puma.
My profile's up there. Hit me up. I'm sorry I don't have the time for 20-30 games to get to a decent mmr with a faction I'm not working on just so I can win fourms arguments with cowards. |
What are your CEs gonna do against 251? 222? Luchs? flak 251?
Also, you are perfectly entitled to your opinion.
Regardless how wrong one it is.
Cap 3/4 the map and drop a 9 minute t-70 with mines all over. |
Not to sound elitist, but anything works at lower ranks. This applies in any RTS. If CE spam was wrecking havoc in tournaments and in top100 ladder i would be concerned. At top200? Mildly amused. A pocket strat from a specific niche of players, interested (say for example mechanized HT play ala TwistedTootsy)
I've already told u why CE spam doesn't work. The current (and basically since alpha days) meta is heavy light vehicle play. Light vehicles have always been a key aspect on 1v1 and CE are not a unit which can counter them effectively. Which is why you will see that right now, OKW is more effective than OH on 1v1 because they can deploy an effective light tank to deal with AI (P2) and a counter to them (Puma).
Even if you play against OH, they will use a combination of either PG/222/FHT to deal with those.
You might be right and rose the ladder to top 100 and change the soviet meta. I would put my bet that CE and CE spam strats are not an issue at all.
CE spam doesn't work because LV play? Which LV do the soviets have again?
You're just deflecting. 1v1 me if you don't think I'm a high enough rank to have an opinion. Surely you're top 100 right?
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Honestly, I think even a basic automatch attempt with the CE strat could be illuminative, given the weaknesses I laid out. I'd be interested in a replay of even that.
You haven't told me why you think I'm wrong about CEs though, and I am curious to know, but if you feel so strongly about this topic that you would prefer to demonstrate their supposed capabilities in a replay than I can only wish you the best.
https://www.coh2.org/replay/104649/fourms-arguement-1
20 minute game vs a rank 600 something OST
I wasn't lucky enough to get any higher ranking players unfortunately. Went 9-2 for the night with no infantry other than CE and AT guns in a couple games. |